European Open Borders.

[Theland]

European open borders are not only sucking in asylum seekers from war torn countries, but vastly outnumbering them , hundreds of thousands of Africans from all over the continent.
They are destroying our continent country by country.
Do you accept this, and if not, what should be done about it?
London has now capituLated to foreigners, and ethnic Brits are fleeing looking for a place where their own tribe can live in peace.
Isn't this alarming and political action long overdue?
Hitler could have easily invaded us by dressing his Storm troopers in burkas.
Or shall I just go to the pub and forget about it?

[Gromit]

// vastly outnumbering them //

Really?
I won’t bother asking for any figures because you never have them.

[Theland]

Grow up

[Gromit]

Which European countries are outnumbered by asylum seekers?

[vetuste_ennemi]

Numbers is the name of the game. A hundred years ago the whole of Africa was less populous than Europe. Overtaken a few decades ago. Now increasing at a rate (due to Western science and aid programs) far beyond the capacity of its poor governance and corrupt economies to support.

The traditional methods for solving poverty were exporting your youngsters to settle and colonise (Greece c 800-700 BC), or steal other people's lands and wealth by invasion (Huns 400 AD? - or history passim?).

Now the process has been largely de-risked. Don't have to go to war. Element of adventure remains, though. Any enterprising Eritrean or Nigerian with a mobile phone, a few bob and a sob story can get himself to Libya, hire the pedalo and get himself picked up outside Libyan territorial waters by Médecins sans Frontières, shipped to Italy and end up with a job for life doing nothing in northern Europe.

[Spicerack]

'a job for life doing nothing'

Lol, pinching that.

[EDDIE51]

Well done Theland, 3 openly racist questions in just over an hour.

[naomi24]

There you go, Theland. You've asked a question that concerns a lot of people - and that makes you racist. Pathetic.

[kvalidir]

I'm currently in Germany, land of 'welcome refugees' and frankly I've not noticed any difference to when I lived here as a child. I've already had the 'yeah but would you walk through such and such an area in shorts eh?' on here and answered yes, and the answer is now the same ( except it's too bloody cold at the moment), so please try to calm down, the sky really isn't falling, no-one I know is frightened, unless frankly they are already xenophobic and fear difference anyway. It's not racist to be concerned about things that worry you but it is to ignore facts in order that the reality is distorted to fit your own views which happen to perhaps be racist to begin with.

[kvalidir]

That was at Theland Naomi btw, not you x

[Jennykenny]

What is the matter with you?
Do you remember the recent case of the woman who kept urinating on a war memorial?
She obviously had a problem in that she wanted any kind of attention rather than be ignored.
And you seem to a similar type of person.
I think in future, fellow writers, that the best thing we do is to not respond to any questions or statements made by Theland. Starve him/her of oxygen.

[gulliver1]

Not many people know this, I should keep this information to yourself, Theland.

[naomi24]

kvalidir, No doubt your assurances that no one you know is concerned will make the rest of us realise just how very silly we are to have our eyes open. :o/

[kvalidir]

The point of my post Naomi was that I am actually in Germany at the moment and have noticed no discernable change, be as flippant and sarcastic as you like, a leopard never changes it's spots apparently. Anyway please feel free to be a terrified as you like, it's your life you're making a misery not mine I'm off to Koln (assuming I don't get murdered by Islamic fundamentalists on the way obviously). lol

[naomi24]

kvalidir, //(assuming I don't get murdered by Islamic fundamentalists on the way obviously).//

And I’m flippant and sarcastic? I’ve no doubt the French people murdered in a small town by an Islamic fundamentalist the other day had noticed no discernable change either. Loads to ‘lol’ about.

[-Talbot-]

I'm currently in Germany, land of 'welcome refugees' and frankly I've not noticed any difference to when I lived here as a child




I've noticed a difference and I have noticed a different attitude from people who once upon a time were quite welcoming of refugees.

[Jackdaw33]

My gut feeling is that it's only a matter of time before it all kicks off. 'Rivers of Blood' won't even come close.

[NoMercy]

There is real fear among Germany's indigenous. Sweden's too.

And that is why so many of us, myself included, voted for brexit. I guess that makes me racist?

[naomi24]

I’m at a loss to understand why kvalidir thinks the opinions of people she knows should or would influence anyone. Her mother is Jewish, rendering her Jewish by default. She should be concerned.

[kvalidir]

I don't think the opinions of those I know should or would influence anyone but I will challenge the notion that everyone here is running scared ( or should be) of their decision to welcome refugees, because that is simply not the case for the majority. You will always find people who worry and panic and decide to tar everyone with the same brush but that is not the majority of people in Germany, however the far right here are quite happy to use those that are as poster boys for their own dubious agendas, and I agree what we really need to avoid is s culture war, which they are egging on. I should be concerned as I am Jewish? I am, but I'm not hysterical and I don't judge people with such broad glaring brushstrokes as some here do. I'm concerned by the odd graffitied Swatikas I've seen here and there far more than from the Syrian family up the road who just didn't want to die in their homeland (and came to my nephews birthday party yesterday because their child goes to the same kindergarten as him). Theland's opening question was hysterical, factually inaccurate and frankly designed to stir up conflict which it's done. No-one thinks fundamentalists of any persuasion are nothing to worry about but alienating a whole culture because there is a problem minority will simply create more not less of a problem.

[naomi24]

kvalidir, // I will challenge the notion that everyone here is running scared//

Having clearly felt qualified to patronise posters here by assuring them that the sky really isn’t falling, I believe that overly dramatic assumption is your notion rather than anyone else’s. That said, people’s genuine concerns should not be airily dismissed simply because you – and the anonymous people you set such store by - disagree with them.