Pamela Anderson Slams #metoo Movement For ‘Paralysing Men’

[naomi24]

Pamela Anderson has blasted the #MeToo movement, claiming it is a “bit much” and that “people need to take responsibility for keeping themselves safe….. my mother taught me don't go to a hotel with a stranger….. I think this feminism can go too far. I’m a feminist, but I think that this third wave feminism is a bore. I think it paralyses men.”

https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/celebrity-news/pamela-anderson-slams-metoo-movement-for-paralysing-men-a3982011.html

Does she have a point? I think so. Well said her!

[andy-hughes]

spath - // I think most sain respectful people know it’s not ok to rape anyone //

As someone like Ched Evans if he thinks rape is an abhorrent act, and he will agree with you, because it conjours up an image of violence perpetuated on a stranger by a stranger.

Ask him if he thinks having sex with a stranger in his hotel room is rape, and he'd probably say no.

That's where the problem lies - the realisation that assuming sex is OK … is not OK.

[spathiphyllum]

I think the issue with the #MeToo movement is that it offers a stage for false claims or claims that aren’t really of a savage nature, more a regretful one night stand. Willingly going to a hotel room with someone is a common sign of sexual relations. I’m sure no one would want their partners to go to a hotel room with someone for the night for that exsact reason. The #MeToo movement should really (and does) provide a platform for women (mostly) to acknowledge blackmail rape and other such things.

[spathiphyllum]

Andy, sex is fine. Rape isn’t. If the word no or yes arises you know which one is a quarn

[kvalidir]

//Willingly going to a hotel room with someone is a common sign of sexual relations.//

Not in some circumstances it isn't. Anyone travelling or touring for a living, (music, stage plays, conventions etc) routinely go back to one another's hotel rooms, and most are very clear that doesn't equal a right for a man to have sex with you, it's just a convenient temporary house.

[spathiphyllum]

And it other circumstances it is

[spathiphyllum]

Common doesn’t mean all the time every situation

[andy-hughes]

spath - // Andy, sex is fine. Rape isn’t. If the word no or yes arises you know which one is a quarn //

But that's the problem.

There are a huge number of men - and some of them posted on here on the Ched Evans debates, that honestly believe that a woman accompanying a man to a hotel room late at night signals that sex is automatically on the agenda - and if she has to be 'persuaded a little' - well, what else did she expect?

[kvalidir]

You clearly see a woman going back to a hotel as a signal she's probably willing to have sex. That is a massive problem Spath and exactly what we're talking about.

[spathiphyllum]

You falsly put implications on people Kval and it’s slightly rude

[andy-hughes]

spath - // You falsly put implications on people Kval and it’s slightly rude //

The evidence is all around us, and has been on this site on more than one occasion - nothing 'false' about it!

[spathiphyllum]

Well for one, i do not think that a woman going back to a hotel room is a invotation for sex. But if you’re on a night out, and someone offers you back to their hotel, don’t be a naive fool and think for one second there isn’t a unspoken motive.
So two, me “clearly think”ong anything is codswallop. Don’t make me seem i’m implying skmething i’m not. It’s rude

[Spicerack]

Doesn't the fact that Ched Evans was found not guilty prove that his 'defenders' were right.
And you were/are wrong.

[spathiphyllum]

Also this is about “a stranger”, not a collegue or a pen pal. Mostly one night stands i’m assuming

[kvalidir]

It's not rude Spath, it's what you said, and it's what we're talking about, this idea that going back to someone's hotel is likely to end in sex. you said it not me, I just pointed it out and now you're uncomfortable about it.

[spathiphyllum]

My parents raised me not to get a lift with strangers let alome go sleep in their hotelroom bed

[spathiphyllum]

No, you’re putting scenareos and words into peoples mouths

[bundleone]

Of course you shoulnt go off with a stranger, no need to put yourself in danger. Not excusing mens bad behaviour of course.

[Spicerack]

^That to Andy.
And would you just stop with your juvenile insinuations.

[kvalidir]

No I'm really not, and we can't just talk about the scenarios you want, this is a general question about the #metoo campaign, which covers all incidences of rape and sexual assault not just one night stands. You're trying to pick and choose your playing field, and you really can't do that, if something applies to one situation it applies to them all in terms of consent.

[spathiphyllum]

Rape is bad hurr durr.. everyone in their right mind knows that so what’s the debate then?

What pamala said.. so that’s that i’m discussing.