Panorama On The Birmingham School Protests

[vetuste_ennemi]

Anybody seen this?

How do you think the issue about the teaching of sexual and family diversity is going to be resolved? Especially as the temperature will be raised further next year when it becomes a legal(?) requirement on all primary schools to instruct their pre-pubescent pupils about same-sex marriage.

It seems to me that there's an intractable contradiction in an educational policy which promotes the idea that homosexuality is "OK" to the children of parents who think it is not.

But I'm not that an imaginative person. The British have a gift for compromise (we are told). What's the likely British compromise here?

[tamborine]

My now adult kids learned about sex from our animals; the bullocks mounted each other, cat pleasured itself on the wolfhound & rabbit mounted son’s leg. A livery woman used to masterbate her gelding & neighboring farmer had it off with his sheep - so they told me....hey ho ;)

[Calicogirl]

For what it's worth my opinion is that ALL children attending state school should be taught about the normalcy of heterosexual, homosexual, bi, trans and pan relationships equally. It will in time balance our society better and eradicate hate crimes. Parents who object to their children being taught this, when this is the legal situation in the UK, have the option to remove their child from state school and arrange for home education. I am very unyielding about this, enough is enough, we need to have respect for one another and not intentionally create a scenario of ignorance and hatred in our children.

[ladybirder]

Perhaps the parents should attend the lessons first, and then their children?

[dannyk13]

Calico //balance our society better and eradicate hate crimes//
I doubt that very much. Many of the purveyors of hate are well versed in the meaning of LGBT.Because someone understands a subject does not mean that they will accept it.

[Calicogirl]

Young children don't hate, Danny, naturally because of race,or gender or anything else, they take each person and either like or dislike them on their merits. They learn to hate from their parents and peers, this curtails that substantially is all I am saying.

[dannyk13]

Calico //young children don't hate,//
True, but they grow into adults.

[Calicogirl]

They do Danny, and if they have no grounding in acceptance of other people's sexuality and choices then that's when they can go off on outlandish tangents encouraged by whatever hang ups their families / religion has about gay marriage etc, this will help to minimise or at least balance that effect surely?

[dannyk13]

Calico, what I am saying is that a good grounding in this subject will not guarantee that the child will not grow up to be an LGBT hating individual.

[Calicogirl]

No it doesn't Danny I agree with you but it does at least give the child a fighting chance not to be brain washed by parental bigotry or religious persuasion.

[dannyk13]

Calico, I think that when the child grows up he/she will be influenced more by the company he/she keeps, especially in the teen years.

[jackthehat]

That's very true, danny.....and hopefully *all* those teens will have received a similarly enlightened education.

[Calicogirl]

Yes and if all of those children have also been taught that it's fine to be gay etc then where will the problem be? The cycle of hate and bigotry needs breaking, and this is an attempt to do that.

[Calicogirl]

Snap Jack :) x

[dannyk13]

Calico/Jack. You have far more optimism than I have.

[Paigntonian]

Cloverjo says it magnificently briefly.

[Ryzen]

Can Muslim parents openly demonstrate homophobia when Christian bakers get taken to court for a similar stance?

[bainbrig]

I think the most heartening thing to come out of the programme was the multi-faith nature of the opposition, i.e. it wasn’t just loony Moslems, it was barmy Jews, crazy Christians, the whole gamut.

And no, the British people must not be bullied by any minority interest group.

[sherrardk]

From September 2020 relationship education will be compulsory in primary schools and parents will not (currently) have the right to withdraw their kids from lessons. That it’s having to taught at all is outrageous, it’s 2020 not the Victorian ages.

[douglas9401]

"And no, the British people must not be bullied by any minority interest group."

Why not when it's worked out so well for the LGBT folk?

[Spicerack]

Mmm, that crossed my mind, Douglas.
Anyway, sherrard says it's going to be compulsory from next year.
So, that's all sorted then. ;-)