Scots: Why Do You Think Independence Would Be Beneficial To Scotland?

[naomi24]

With Nicola chomping at the bit for a second Scottish Independence referendum, clearly supported by many Scots here, I’ve yet to see any of them offer a rational explanation for that support. Such a move has to be economically damaging to Scotland at the very least. For the benefit of those who cannot see the sense in it, can anyone explain it please?

[douglas9401]

Interesting use of the word 'clearly'.

Your energies might be better applied to healing the fractured society that is England instead of harping on the ravings of an over-promoted divorce lawyer and her band of utter losers.

Have a braw day y'all.

[Old_Geezer]

I suspect it's more an emotional reaction than an economic one. One can understand wanting to be an independent country, but splitting an island up into small areas is a step too far IMO. The UK is a decent size for a single nation. And isn't that different in culture from regional/local area to local area.

[naomi24]

She is 'clearly' supported by some of the Scots here, douglas. Is it a bad thing to want to understand why?

[douglas9401]

We've moved from 'many' to 'some'. Progress indeed.

A little more work and we'll arrive at reality.

[Prudie]

To answer on a lower level I too would be interested - if asked I would name annesasquith, maggiebee, JimF, steg, murraymints and Douglas as the posters I think are Scottish and at least the first 3 have suggested they are in favour of a split, steg maybe too (apologies I haven't studied you all but if asked that's what I'd list).

[Spicerack]

I'd have thought the threat of possibly joining the EU would put more people off independence than at their last referendum. I suppose there's one way of definitely finding out.
Mind you, I'm sort of biased because I don't care what they do and doubt it will affect me much either way. I am sick of their (some) whinging and a referendum may shut them up. (for a generation?)

[jim360]

I'm not sure what sense there is in bringing economic arguments into the table, particularly when you have implicitly rejected economic arguments against your own position in a separate but related. The accuracy (or not) of those arguments is soon to be tested, but that's not really the point. Explain to yourself why you wanted to leave the EU, replace Brussels with Westminster, and you'll be more or less where you need to be to understand the Scottish Independence movement.

[naomi24]

douglas, oh, right. Okay ... many. Do you have an explanation or would you rather just continue to nit pick a serious question?

[douglas9401]

naomi honey, I'm stopping here because your newly donned mantle of absolute certainty in all you proclaim is unassailable and therefore not worth striving against.

I bow to you in nit-picking and *** stirring and withdraw to finish my bacon sandwich.

Toodles.

[naomi24]

Jim, That doesn’t work - on any level. Not even a good try.

[naomi24]

Blimey, douglas! That's some bee you have in your bonnet - and it's 'clearly' well and truly stung. I can only wish you a speedy recovery. Enjoy your sandwich.

[Bobbisox1]

Reasons why ( to Jim)
How many times has the European Court of HR overruled our own laws ? We didn’t join the then CM for that to happen ,we joined for trade, and that’s just one reason I’m pleased to be out ,England has never overruled Scottish law , in fact they’re a separate entity

[anneasquith]

I wrote out a fairly large reply, it’s disappeared, maybe for the best. Carry on you English guys and answer for us ;-)

[Spicerack]

What about the Welsh, annie?

[anneasquith]

The welsh? They can do / say what they like. I suspect they check with their English friends first though as to what they do :-)

[jim360]

It works on loads of levels, Naomi -- but, leaving that aside, what do you even mean by "not a good try"? What do you think I was trying?

[naomi24]

I'd rather you answered, anneasquith. The rest of us might have opinions, but I would really like to know why the Scots who want out want out - and why they think independence will be beneficial to Scotland.

[naomi24]

Jim, I'm not getting into the EU argument with you again. This isn't about the EU.

[anneasquith]

Naomi. You would rather I answered, really, . Not today my dear .

[Zacs-Master]

Bobbi, The ECHR protects the human rights of people in countries that belong to the Council of Europe, which is a completely different organisation to the EU. were still in the CoE.