What A Load Of Tory Wiff Waff.

[gulliver1]

Liz Truss Blames Rishi Sunak for trashing her record in office as the reason for the Tory  election wipeout.....And he was the main reason she lost her seat. ....Well done Rishi, on both counts. Think M/S Truss has a very high opinion of herself

 

[ToraToraTora]

you won now belt up.

[newmodarmy]

Welcome back gulliver1- that was a short suspension. I agree with you but I'm not sure why you're bothering with Boris, Truss, Mogg etc. They're history now...hopefully you'll keep the new  government on its toes for the next 5 years. Enjoy the honeymoon period.

[davebro3]

he's just finishing off the last of his sour grapes🤣

[maggiebee]

Charming as usual TTT.

[gulliver1]

NMA 10.57 "five years"  You must be joking. The Tories will not get in again for at least fifteen years.  If then.😎

[newmodarmy]

80% of the public didn't vote Labour so it's democracy that was crushed, but certainly the Tories deserved to lose power. But can they actually make things better? Time will tell. It's odd though that most of their manifesto plans were the same as the Tory manifesto and were more right wing than Lib Dems, SNP, Greens. So no change to tax thresholds or major investment in public services, no plans to reverse Brexit- and no ideas on stopping the dinghies. So will anything change

[nicebloke1]

They may as well carry on fighting between themselves they have nothing else left to fight for. SK bought it home.🤣🤣

[Gromit]

Are you sure you meant to use the words wiff waff ?  
Whiff whaff is the early name for the game that we now call table tennis.

HTH 😂

[newmodarmy]

Not really gulliver- the Labour vote was very low for  a winning party, less than Corbyn got, so it only needs a few Reform and Liberals to go back to the Cons, and it could be close next time. But let's hope Labour do such a great job with the economy and stopping the boats that they will sail to victory again in 2029- unlike you I'm not colour blind and don't mind who's in power as long as they do a good job.

[Gromit]

Gulliver,   
You are turning into TTT.   
He foolishly thought Boris would win a least two more elections after the 2019 Tory landslide. He tried to get us to gamble with him on the next election (that stopped after Truss crashed ehe economy). But the 80 majority in 2019 was based on a lot of wafer thin majorities in Labour's former red wall.   
Labour have a majority of 172. You might think that will keep them in power for at least another term, but some unique things happened at this election which won't be repeated in 2029.   
We should put the Labour Government's life expectancy at 5 years. What happens after that depends on if they deliver or not.

 

[naomi24]

Gromit, had it been tested I think TTT would probably have been proven correct and Boris would have won more elections.  However, since it wasn't tested it's disingenuous to suggest failure.

[Gromit]

Boris was removed by his own party because he had made the Tories toxic and unelectable. And the Conservatives suffered their worst ever defeat last week.  
Turning a 80 seat majority into a 172 seat deficit in less than five years is my definition of failure.

[naomi24]

gromit, I don't agree with your reasoning - but we know what the result was for the remaining Conservative government - and that came as no surprise.

[Ryzen]

I dont think this Kia will come with a 7 year warranty

[Gromit]

Naomi,  

I don't agree with your reasoning.  
// [if he had stayed] Boris would have won more elections //

Nope.

[ToraToraTora]

I did offer to take a bet on Boris winning, shame no one had the guts to back their own opinion. I thought that Boris would win the election if he stayed on. The problem was that multiple crises just turned the whole show into a firefighting exercise so we never really got the government that was elected in 2019. The party foolishly in my opinion got rid of Boris for no good reason. The detractors all go on about porkies yet when challenged they cannot come up with a single example.

[Gromit]

He told the House of Commons that he attended no parties and always obeyed [his own] rules. Then was fined by the police.

[ToraToraTora]

They were not parties, work place gatherings, perfectly legal.

[nicebloke1]

You lost belt up🤣