Why Are Schools Doing This?

[renegadefm]

Just had my partners daughter ring her in tears because her daughter, partners granddaughter was susspended from wearing the wrong type of trousers. This I should add is secondary school. 

This is just messing with the child's mental health. Besides the trousers she had on we're trousers of the right colour, and not leggings as the school was suggesting they are. 

 

This isn't the first time I have heard of issues like this at secondary schools around here. One particular indecent was where the child was given detention for wearing the wrong brand of trainers, apparently it should have been shoes. 

 

It beggers believe why are schools doing this to our children. No wonder they are growing up bitter and twisted or are suffering mental health issues. 

 

Surely they are there to learn and get an education, it shouldn't matter what they wear. 

 

 

[Barsel]

I think it depends on the school about how strict they are.

The school 2 of my daughters went to used to tell you which shop to buy the uniform from.

When I saw the price of the gaberdine, I thought blow that and got her one from a charity shop which was the same. 

The only person who complained was my daughter.

[renegadefm]

Atheist, 

I just asked partner that question. 

According to her daughter this isn't the first time they have had issues with clothes. And tried opening up to the headmaster. 

These trousers were bought in ASDA as part of the going back to school range, so why wouldn't this be acceptable to the school God only knows. 

[naomi24]

//Besides theres the thing where the minute they leave school they will want to select clothes which they feel suites their personality etc. //

 

That's nonsense.  Kids don't wear uniform at weekends and at holiday time.  Then they may allow their 'personality' free rein.  Teaching a child to rebel against rules that are in place for a reason and apply to everyone isn't clever. Untimately it's damaging.  

[renegadefm]

Barsel, 

I can imagine being forced to go to specific shops where the prices are over blown quite tough for a lot of parents, especially if you have more than 2 or 3 children, the cost can run out of control. 

[ToraToraTora]

From this and your past posts you strike me as someone who thinks they are special, different, you think you know better in every area especially education. 100s of years of state education has preceeded where we are today. It's like it is for a reason and the fact you seem incapable of comprehending that does not mean.

"Besides theres the thing where the minute they leave school they will want to select clothes which they feel suites their personality etc. " - Yep and they'll have to wait until then.

"Its a bit like saying during your time at school your not allowed to have a personality, when we are all different in reality. " - It's designed so that it's a level playing field for all. For example it stops rich kids turning up in £10k worth of clobber and showing off. Personality is not driven by sartorial matters alone.

[renegadefm]

naomi24, 

 

I get what you mean, but look at this the other way, it could be why some children rebel against going to school altogether. They might want to extend what they are at weekends during the week. 

Just saying. 

[Atheist]

Again, she should discuss it with the school. She's a grown-up and should be able to sort out the issue herself. The parents seem to be making a mountain out of a molehill. They are sending the child to school in unsuitable clothes, and are thus causing upset and embarrassment to the child. I don't know the whole story, but that's how it seems to me from what you write.

[naomi24]

That's up to their parents to address.  The overwhelming majority of children go to school, wear the uniform, and don't get suspended.  That should tell you something,  

 

Just saying.,

[renegadefm]

ToraToraTora, 

Personally this isn't my issue. 

I was merely pointing out if the child's standards of trousers wasn't to the schools standards. Why take it out on the child. Shes in her first year of secondary school, so the blame should bounce back to the parents was my point. 

 

[Atheist]

I don't think we are getting the whole story. Was the child suspended without any prior communication with the parents?

[renegadefm]

naomi24, 

Yes but if the parents can't afford to buy the clothes from the specific shops the school are saying they should be bought by, surely the back to school range from ASDA should be sufficient. 

If the clothes from ASDA are not suitable why are they allowed to sell them? 

[Canary42]

While regimentation can sound a bit dystopian, TTT makes a very important point re level playing field.

Children have plenty of time out of school to "express their personality" etc.

It also prepares them for adulthood where life without rules would be Anarchy.

[naomi24]

I don't believe the school has suspended the child on a first offence.  I'm pretty sure that if there was an on-going issue the school would have taken it up with the parents.  I suspect attempts to reason with the parents have failed - and I think we're only hearing half the story.  

[renegadefm]

Atheist, 

The only info I have is partners daughter who is in her 30's was crying down the phone saying she got to go back to pick up daughter as shes suspended for turning up in the ASDA back to school range trousers she has on.

Thats all I know. 

[THECORBYLOON]

"I could understand it if they were pink trousers or something, but from what I can gather they we're actually black trousers. "

It does matter what they wear then?

[Ryzen]

rene...I would take the child out of that school and spend the next 5/6 years home schooling......that will teach them a lesson!!.....and based on your answers, I'm sure the child will become a more rounded individual, with better prospects, :-)

[chelle7272]

//If the clothes from ASDA are not suitable why are they allowed to sell them?//

It is the schools pregoative what children may wear. Asda make a whole range of styles.

You dont know what the issue is adn as you said haven;t seen the trousers. Nor so you mention any details of the policy of the school. Perhaps they do not allow 'skinny' style trousers and that is what she is wearing. 

A suspension usually only comes after other attempts to resolve issues has failed.

You partners daughter needs to step up and sort things out with the school instead of causing her child to miss out on education.

 

[naomi24]

Shops sell the clothes they choose to sell so Asda isn't at fault here.  This lady knew what was required when the child started at the school.  If there is genuine hardship schools are often able to help out, and many schools run a uniform recycling system where second-hand out-grown uniform is available to students.   The arguments you've offered have obviously from this parent which tells me that she is simply kicking against the system because she thinks the rules shouldn't apply to her or her child.  She is doing her child no favours whatsoever.  Very poor parenting - in my opinion.

[Untitled]

they do it because there are a lot of mediocre people in the world who experience gratification by bossing around children who can't stand up to them. 

[youngmafbog]

Usual cobblers ^^^

Rules are rules.  Abide by them or go somwhere else where they dont care and the kids can run riot.