Why Are Schools Doing This?

[renegadefm]

Just had my partners daughter ring her in tears because her daughter, partners granddaughter was susspended from wearing the wrong type of trousers. This I should add is secondary school. 

This is just messing with the child's mental health. Besides the trousers she had on we're trousers of the right colour, and not leggings as the school was suggesting they are. 

 

This isn't the first time I have heard of issues like this at secondary schools around here. One particular indecent was where the child was given detention for wearing the wrong brand of trainers, apparently it should have been shoes. 

 

It beggers believe why are schools doing this to our children. No wonder they are growing up bitter and twisted or are suffering mental health issues. 

 

Surely they are there to learn and get an education, it shouldn't matter what they wear. 

 

 

[DDIL]

renegadefm, have you considered what you are teaching your stepgrandchild?

You are teaching her that she does not have to abide by the rules but kick and scream and complain and get her own way.

Not a good lesson in life.

As for the accusation that the schools receive money from uniform shops - best investigate it before making accusations.

[bednobs]

snap naomi

[bednobs]

and DDIL!

[chelle7272]

When I as at school in the 80's our uniform came from a specific shop.
When my son started secondary in 2006 we had to buy uniform only from his school.

It is a way for underfunded schools to make money. They have options for those on a smaller budget.

The parent would have been made aware of all this when the child started at the school. Your arguments are nonsense and none of this is helpful for the child.

[DDIL]

Just a thought, growing up in rural areas, we had uniform shops as it was easier for the parents to buy everything in the local small town that traipse to the big city.

[renegadefm]

Boto, 

The term mental health isn't used as an excuse, it's real and I can clarify does exist. 

My eldest daughter, who is now 20 and doing very well in UNI suffered anxiety when she started at secondary school, she went onto develop an eating disorder, so these things are serious and should be treated as such. 

I can only assume the triggers of such anxiety is or was the leap from Primary school to big school is a scary experience for some children. 

And it had nothing to do with the wearing of wrong clothes in her case, but you can see how having that needless aggrivation about wearing the wrong black trousers can be trigger points for children. 

[New Judge]

"I think you haven't read all my posts."

I have.

The arguments about the option to buy "similar" clothes from other shops would be fine if children (usually aided and abetted by their parents) didn't explore boundaries. As soon as that choice is sanctioned the "salami" tactics will begin:

"But Mum, they're only a bit different to the official trousers. Nobody will notice."

"OK then. We'll get those."

Then, next term, when new trousers are required:

"But Mum, they're only a bit different to the ones I've been wearing. Nobody will notice".

"Erm...OK then."

(Repeated two or three times, until finally:

"But Mum, they're only a bit different to the ones I've been wearing. Nobody will notice."

"Erm...no. They're far too different to the official ones. We'll get those."

"But Mum..."

"I said no"

"I hate you. Your giving me stress and anxiety and I'm developing mental health problems."

"OMG. I never realised that. I'm so sorry. What ones do you want then?"

Next term, little Oliver trots off to school in baggy mauve trousers, tied at the waist with white cord and with white paint daubed across the thighs. Because, after all, they're only a bit different to the ones he wore last term so nobody will notice. 

That's one reason why schools allow uniform trousers from just one supplier.

Then there's the cruelty of children towards their peers. For example:

"Not only are you getting free school dinners, but your Mum won't even buy you the proper uniform from Grace Brothers. You've got that cheap Primark stuff on. What a sight!" 

Are we geting there yet?

My school uniform had to be purchased from one Central London gentlemens' outfitters. It wasn't cheap. My parents didn't have the proverbial pot to pee in, but they managed to see me properly kitted out and so were all my peers. There were no arguments about uniforms in my school and coincidentally none of my fellow pupils suffered "anxiety, stress or mental health problems." We couldn't afford such luxuries in those days.

[Prudie]

Has it crossed your mind that her mental health may be more damaged by the fact that unlike her peers in the school, she is bought school uniform from Asda?

[bednobs]

"aggrivation about wearing the wrong black trousers can be trigger points for children"

then get her the bloody right trousers.

[DDIL]

1358 BA right there!

Whilst I agree that mental health is important, if you stopped pandering to children then perhaps they would learn that rules are there for a reason!

[naomi24]

renedagefm,  //it had nothing to do with the wearing of wrong clothes in her case, but you can see how having that needless aggrivation about wearing the wrong black trousers can be trigger points for children. //

 

The only needless aggravation in that child's life is being caused by her mother - and you condoning it.  Stop demanding that the rules be changed to accommodate the wishes of the mother - who knew exactly what was required when the child started at the school - and get her the right uniform.  

[Canary42]

If indeed the child has suffered Mental Health problems then the blame lies entirely with the parent for using her daughter to make a silly point. And setting foolish expectations in the child's mind for what to expect from life.  

[naomi24]

Renegadefm, do you not think being suspended might affect that child's mental health?

[bednobs]

i think thats renegades whole point naomi

[naomi24]

Indeed - it could so easily have been prevented.  

[chelle7272]

//you can see how having that needless aggrivation about wearing the wrong black trousers can be trigger points for children//

 

Buy the right uniform then. If the childs mother has an appreciation of the anxiety of starting a new school she should do everything she can to make it easier for the child. 

Her mental health may be triggered by looking different to everyone else and getting into trouble needlessly!

[naomi24]

^That was the point I was making.  If the child's mental health is suffering the mother only has herself to blame.  Just get the child the uniform.

[chelle7272]

Sorry Naomi yes I was slow postng there but it seems most of us have the same perspective on this.

[barry1010]

This is why so many children are having problems today - mollycoddled by parents.

[chelle7272]

Spot on barry