Flip_Flop and helpmetoo - Were those remarks tongue in cheek? I do certainly hope so and that they were a failed attempt at humour rather than crass remarks for the sake of getting a bit of attention. Navvies?Hmm and superior to the Irish, Scots and Welsh? I think not. You can but dream though hahaha. I am a Scottish woman and have many good English friends. I don't tar them all with the same brush due to an idiotic minority of English people whom I have had the misfortune of speaking with and concluded that they are a complete moron. Nor do they judge me on a minority of Scottish people who have behaved in a less then dignified manner similarly. I'm curious though , in terms of football hooliganism , how often are the 'Tartan Army' featured on news bulletins for causing mayhem abroad? What are the statistics for English football hooligans causing trouble in foreign countries? The Scottish people are renowned worldwide for good manners and hospitality and in actual fact, the cruel and unjustified tag of the Scots tightfisted, alcoholic wifebeater has only been mentioned to me by English people. As I say though , I do not let the actions/thoughts of the odd numpty cloud my opinion of a whole country of people. I have more intelligence than that.