How about this then?

[Drisgirl]

I signed this petition ages ago and just got an EMil from Downing St:

http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page15994.as p

For once it looks like they are actually looking into on line petitions.

I obviously agree that there should be a day set aside for us to remember and reflect and for it not to be a 'jolly'.

How do others feel?

[bensmum]

I agree that there should be a day for this and that it should be for remembering. My fear would be that people would just use it like they do all the other bank Holidays. But then again I suppose it's up to people to do what they want with their free time.

[WaldoMcFroog]

Good - it would be fine by me.

However, yet another proposed day off in the spring/ early summer. Sheesh. Why not have it in the autumn when between the August bank holiday and Christmas, there's absolutely nothing?

[jake-the-peg]

I don't agree,

Which petition do I sign?

If we're having another public holiday let's have Magna Carta day.

The Americans are always celebrating their constitution "We hold these truths to be self evident....."
Yet we never celebrate the document on which it was based giving free rights to ordinary Englishmen nearly 800 years ago.

There's more than enough celebration in the first Sunday of November already yet at Runneymead there's just a modest monument put up by the America bar association.

Frankly it's a disgrace

[naomi24]

I agree with Waldo - and I think a date close to 11 November would be most appropriate.

[jake-the-peg]

PS ........It would be June 10th - Who wants a bank holiday in November?

[buildersmate]

The Guy Fawkes Remembrance Society?

[naomi24]

A bank holiday in June to commemorate the fallen would be rather missing the point, I feel. Although June sees the anniversary of the D-Day landings, 11 November commemorates ALL the fallen - and that's what we should be remembering. If November isn't a good time for barbeques, trips to the seaside, and DIY, then so be it.

[Drisgirl]

Thanks for all your posts and input -I have just received EMails to say there had been replies -I dont like to leave a thread unattended !!

naomi -I agree with what you said -not that I disagreed with everyone else -its should be November and not a time like you quite rightly said a day for 'jollies' to the seaside and things.

[jake-the-peg]

No Naomi 10th of June was when the Magna Carta was signed which would be a much better holiday.

We already commemorate rememberence day in November quite enough.

We don't all want to hang around churches in November droning on about wars that were over decades before most of us were born

[Oneeyedvic]

We already have Remembrance Day - why have the following day as a bank holiday.

Those who want to attend the services will do on a Sunday (the traditional day for Church Services). Not sure that there is much point to a Monday holiday.

If we are discussing Bank Holidays, then I think St Georges Day would be a good day for England (Scotland already have more Bank Holidays than England - though not sure about Wales).

This will be about having a jolly and maybe also some civic pride. Generally the weather is not to bad in late April.

[naomi24]

Jake,. This is what I was referring to. It's from Drisgirls link. Perhaps you didn't read it.

Quentin Davies MP has suggested holding the new day close to the current Veterans' Day at the end of June, while others have suggested holding the day to coincide with the anniversaries of the D-Day Landings in early June or of V.E. Day in early May.

[Drisgirl]

Jake -I for one wouldnt go to church plus -i know its long been said but i'll just say it again for good measure -if it hadnt been for those brave men and women who laid down their lives- would be here?

Im not sure what day would be most appropriate if im honest but I do feel there should be a day which is specified as a day to reflect and apppeciate our freedom.

I dont have a clue what the other holidays are meant to mark.

Scotland does appear to have more bank holidays -im not 100% if we do but I agree there does seem to be a fair few.

[keyplus90]

Make it 1st November. hands up please for 1st November.


I love DIY.


thank you.

[jake-the-peg]

Let's be straight here.


Magna Carta first guaranteed our freedoms - you don't seem to want to celebrate that - perhaps it's not freedom but the armed services you actually want to celebrate

This is just a sounding board for those who want to promote patriotism.

There's nothing good that comes from patriotism it promotes the idea of "My country right or wrong".

That's why all these rememberance services love to dwell on nice black and white conflicts like WWII even though there are few who even fought in them left.

No one seems to want to remember the brave men who died trying to wrest the Suez Canal from the Egyptians!

You may want to wrap yourself in the flag and sing land of hope and glory with a tear in your eye but don't try and impose your own personal fantasy on everybody else by bemoaning the fact that we don't all sit around at rememberence services thinking the sort of thoughts that you think we ought to have.

[squarebear]

Jake the only reason I suspect 95% of people signed that is to get a free day off work, which is why people want it in the summer.

[squarebear]

exactly.

[jake-the-peg]

Oh I agree I doubt many of the others who signed it felt that it "should be a day set aside for us to remember and reflect"

[squarebear]

People would soon complain if all the pubs and shops shut as a mark of respect and allowed us "time to reflect" on this day.

[naomi24]

Jake, the original question concerns this petition:

"We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to create a new public holiday, the National Remembrance Holiday to commemorate The Fallen and our Nation, with the holiday falling on the second Monday in November each year, the day after Remembrance Sunday."

Rather than get your knickers in a knot about something unconnected to the question in hand, why not initiate a petition of your own calling for a day to commemorate the signing of Magna Carta?