Yet one more life for what?

[anotheoldgit]

Lieutenant Colonel Nick Richardson, spokesman for Task Force Helmand, said: 'We are numb with grief at this loss of a noble Marine, who served his country for the good of the Afghan people.

Just read these words again.

'We are numb with grief'

What total empty words.

'who served his country for the good of the Afghan people'

'who served his country' yes that was his job.

But 'for the good of the Afghan people'??????????


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[rov1200]

I agree totally with the comments expressed. Even MPs at question time obviously had their minds of other things.

Its the little things that stand out. Just examine the photograph of the 4 hearses with the dead returning soldiers with the crowds lining the streets. Here we are in Afghanistan trying to put it to rights but how many foreign nationalities were present in the crowd except for a few Nepalese. Where were all the Afghan nationals?

[anotheoldgit]

You post an excellent point rov, yes where were all those Afghan people?

But maybe some have not been forgotten,

http://www.dailyexpress.co.uk/posts/view/10110 2/Muslims-are-quizzed-over-troop-protest-

[youngmafbog]

Mot sure what your point is her aog. Are you saying we should not be in Afganistan ?

This war is not for the Afghans it is for us and the saftey of our streets. The fact the war is being waged on foreign turf and not the uk, for us is good. Maybe not for the Afghans though.

also lets get in persection the casualty rate. The Army is not the most dangerous occupation to be in at all. But do we see coffins ling the street for the professions that are? In addition do you know how many servicemen get killed in manouvres ? probably not not by your comments.

[sp1814]

My understanding was that the war in Afghanistan was the product of our resolution to defeat the Taliban.

It is not, and never was a war to liberate the Afghans. Just like the 'War On Terror' was nothing to do with liberating Iraq.

The safety of our own citizens in the UK is dependent on defeating the evil abroad.

To say that we should pull our troops out is tantamount to appeasement.

Imagine saying in 1939, "The Nazis have nothing to do with us, and even though we have some Brownshirts in our midst, we're not going to waste British blood because Germany has invaded Poland".

It wouldn't wash then, and it shouldn't wash now.

[jake-the-peg]

Rov

Perhaps you should bear in mind that large numbers of Pakistani troops have been killed fighting the Taliban perhaps more than in all the western countries put together.

I think you'll find most of them were muslims

[anotheoldgit]

youngmafbog

This war is not for the Afghans it is for us and the safety of our streets.

Since you seem to know so definitely, perhaps you are privileged with information that the rest of us are not?

I was merely quoting Lieutenant Colonel Nick Richardson.

We are told many different reasons for us being out there. I have heard politicians voice the Lieutenant Colonel's words but then I have also heard them use your excuse.

The Army is not the most dangerous occupation to be in at all. But do we see coffins ling the street for the professions that are?

I cannot understand where you are coming from with this statement, and I would be please to see if anyone else besides yourself does.

But please enlighten us, what are the most dangerous professions? And how many servicemen get killed in manoeuvres? Neither do we see Army coffins lining our streets.

Please don't use the excuse that more drivers are killed on the roads, you might as well say it is more dangerous to get old, since more old people die.

Our troops would be better employed ready to defend our own country than dying in an un-winnable war, in a country that we should not be in.

[leggemessiah]

Didnt chamberlain do exactly that ?
The little piece of paper?

Mmmmmm

Be it of french or german or afghan soil.
Soldiers are paid to and its their duty and honour to fight for their queen and country.

Has britain fought any wars except from the english civil war , on soil that wasnt foreign ?

I think the soldiers are very brave and deserve to be honoured
.But a soldiers job isnt to question the war but to fight in it.

And the casualties there will never ever reach those in the first world war.
Fought in france , for what ?

A few feet , literally , a few feet of french mud.

700 soldiers have just had their war grave exhumed to identify them and give them military funerals.

they died in one day.
in these days of modern warfare the casualties are niniscule in comparissson.


In war there are always casualties , thats the way of war.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

The safety of our own citizens in the UK is dependent on defeating the evil abroad.

Perhaps then we should be out in Africa ousting some of the tyrants out there?

Or perhaps out in Jamaica fighting the Drug Barons and the Yardies?

There were many in 1939 who wished us not to get involved because the Nazis had invaded Poland, but we had an agreement to protect Poland.

Thankfully these appeasers were in the minority and we had a true statesman in Churchill that saw the bigger picture, the fact that Hitler would not stop at Poland.

You can hardly say that a rag tag bunch of tribesmen are storming across Europe ready to knock on our door, unless you mean the illegals?

[keyplus90]

As Jake said, Pakistan has so far lost 1872 soldiers (including army, police and other security forces). Civilian casualties are more than that.

All in all parents are losing their loved ones (whoever they are).

[Simon-Bloom]

Agree with AOG + Keyplus90. Pull out all troops in middle east straight away ( we may need them to fight a real tangible enemy one day soon). Hope also we will not just blindly follow whatever American wants to do + have the backbone to make our own decisions that are based in truth as well as courage for the good of us all at home in the UK plus for those citizens abroad in countries both near or far away. Stop the bloodshed on both sides.

[sp1814]

AOG

Are you saying that we should pull out of Afghanistan and let the Taliban regroup and strengthen their cause?

If you honestly think that Islamic fundamentalism doesn't affect us, how do you explain 7/7?

How do you explain 9/11?

We do not live in a safe little bubble in the UK. If Churchill were alive today, do you think he would withdraw?

My guess is that he wouldn't. But I don't know for sure.

[anotheoldgit]

sp1814

If you honestly think that Islamic fundamentalism doesn't affect us, how do you explain 7/7?

I presume you are aware that these bombings took place in our own capital, by our own home grown terrorists, not in some hell hole of a country in the Middle East.

Better for us to sort our own problems out first, before interfering in another countries problem.

Regarding 9/11 I think the USA is a big enough country to look after their own problems also.

[rov1200]

If the majority of Afghans want us out of their country who are we trying to help?