Women

[123everton]

I watched a show on Tammy Wynette last night, one of the contributors was a feminist of the 1970s who berated Wynete for the lyrics of her songs.
She'd now changed her stance on the matter, but of course was right both times.
So it got me thinking, the other day I posted a link to a load of nonsense that was basically b i t c h i n g about other women, and on that score, there's a huge business in it with women's magazines.
Who's getting fat, who's getting thin, who's going grey, who's got wrinkles, who's got celulite, fashion disasters etc etc.
In the 90s it was all you don't need a man to raise a child, now men are realised to play a crucial role in a child's development (no sob stories please), in the 90s if a woman said she'd rather spend time with her children than go to work or pursue her carreer, she was derided for letting the side down and called "traditional" as an insult.
Women now are driikng to excess to the detriment of their own health and are involved in ever more cases of violent crime, I've heard it said that it's because women are expected to compete with men now.
The pressure to drink loads and fight (usually about a bloke) doesn't come from us, most women say that they undergo cosmetic surgery not because of men.
You hate to be told how to raise your children, what to think or why you do something, but you're often quick to tell others how to live their lives, and how.
So with the touch paper lit, here's the question, are other women more often than not a woman's worst enemy?

[ummmm]

Ok....I don't put any pressure on my friends and they don't put any pressure on me. I don't talk behind their backs and I don't call them names. I presume they are the same as me as I've never heard them talking behind other peoples backs.

[supersuezy24]

In regards Magazines etc I would say yes.
I'm 26, I'm not hung up on my weight, I don't weight myself as I'm not pushed I feel good in how I look but I have to admit it really bothers me when I look through many magazines and one week Britney/Colleen/Nadine etc are been chastised for looking curvy then a few weeks later they are put down for been too skinny, not eating enough etc, Where does it stop??! What kind of example does this set for young impressionable teenagers and young women? It may make them self conscious and possibly raise resentment..

How many times has Kerry Katona (granted I'm not her biggest fan) been in the papers after slimming down and been praised for doing so then a week later she is pictured coming out of kfc and is been humiliated for that..More times that not it is women writing these articles and it does seem quite bitchy.

[babyk]

i use to say av ad enuff of men am gunna turn lesbian bt now no way girls r much worse than men they r to bitchy thats y i have limiited girl mates cause u cant trust them n thats cumin from me a girl thats y i have a few male friends n cn trust them nt to say anythin bt can never trust them in any other way

[Old_Geezer]

"I've never heard a man call a woman a slaġ"

If I can recall back that far, I was aware of some adolescent boys using the term. I think it helped their self esteem to put others down, but you know what kids of that age are like.

[supersuezy24]

I went o an all girls secondary school and it was the b*tch*est place on earth!!
What a horrible place, I have since advised several families not to send their daughters to it as it was horrible bitchy experience.

[Ankou]

the women of the forum must be delighted that cheryl cole has been announced as the woman of the year by glamour magazine, and fearne cotton is radio personality of the year.

completely deserved, what.

[ummmm]

What station is Fern Cotton on?

[Ankou]

now ummm, thats no way to talk about radio personality of the year !!

dunno, does she do talksport or sumfing ?

[LoftyLottie]

I think to a certain extent I agree with you Everton and also with Ankou. Women love small talk, gossip etc. However, I have never really mixed with large groups of women, hate hen parties, etc. and don't have a 'circle' of female friends just a few close ones who I am very comfortable with.

I think it should be realised that equality is not the same as being 'the same as'. We deserve equal rights, but we have done ourselves a total disservice by trying to emulate men.

[supersuezy24]

Good on Cheryl for getting that, she's a stunner!

[cazzz1975]

men are not blameless in this destruction of women though, according to mens mags the preference for dangerously underweight lollypop headed women with massive fake boobs is such that they seem to win most of the sexiest awards, women over a certain age are derided for daring to wear clothes deemed "too young" or for having lines and wrinkles.

[ummmm]

I really wouldn't know Ankou.....

Cazzzzzz....not necessarily what they want to see in the real world though. I've gone from a size 8 to a size 12....and he much prefers me like this.

[123everton]

Lottie, well said.
Cazz, lads mags are meant for men, it's porn for blokes who are too shy to buy porn, but it is a valid point.
Supersuezy, well said too.
Another example was Theresa May was in the paper for her shoes and for wearing the same outfit three times, what an outrage!
Amanda Ellis was on the Wright Stuff and rightly criticised the observation, the next day the controversy was over Michelle Obama's "nude" dress, to which Amanda Ellis said "it doesn't matter because she looked fabulous", who cares?