religion and being a good person...

[joko]

why so many religious people believe that you cannot be a good person if you are not religious...?

someone on here once said ' but how can you possibly know how to be good without god in your life?'

cant remember who - it was ages ago, but i remmembered it because i was gobsmacked at what an idiotic comment it was

as though you would behave like a maniac and do terrible things unless 'someone' told you not to...

to me, being a good person is a part of humanity, of instinctively knowing right from wrong, and learning by example...it had nothing to do with gods word or religion.

why on earth do they believe this? it defies logic.

and given the atrocities committed in the name of religion its also laughable

what do you think?

[RATTER15]

lol Naomi, not a lot you can say to that is there :-)

[naomi24]

Keyplus, //Without religion good people may do something that they might believe to be good but they would not really know that what they did was really good or bad. //

What utter rubbish! And with religion people do things they, as human beings, should know are bad. Nevertheless, they still do it!

[keyplus90]

Naomi – That was my post and not yours, so no chance of any rudeness. My question is simple, Ok perhaps you can answer that.

Where is the book that teaches anyone about how to be good? And I know what your answer would be.

[RATTER15]

Keyplus, do you really think we need a book to tell us what is right and what is wrong, good and bad?

Do you not know the difference without reading it in a book?

[bigbadmarty]

I know last post should have been a question but that's my answer when people talk in riddles . Why must the misguided constantly feel the need to justify their beleif in mumbo-jumbo ? Oops another question

[naomi24]

Keyplus, You were and are rude. This is someone else's question that he would clearly like answered. If you want to ask a different one, ask it elsewhere.

[craft1948]

I'm a christian but consider my faith personal to me, and not something to be used to judge other people by.

[naomi24]

Smacked legs Marty. :o)

[ll_billym]

'God' has never told us (the human race in it's entirety) anything about right or wrong. This information has always come from humans in whichever form that may be in so that's that out of the way.

The glib statement from Mr lewis says nothing because he himself did not try to describe what a 'straight road' is. Had he tried he would possibly have realised that there is no such thing, zoom in enough and all roads are crooked. A truly straight road can only exist in people's minds, never in reality, which makes this analogy very good but it actually means the opposite of what he thought: In the real world there is NO absolute right, and therefore no absolute wrong, the judgement of how wrong something is depends on who is doing the judging.

[RATTER15]

Keyplus, do you really think we need a book to tell us what is right and what is wrong, good and bad?

Do you not know the difference without reading it in a book?

[RATTER15]

^^^ how did that submit twice, it wasn't me!!!

[starone]

I used to work with a bloke who was a good Catholic. He swore I was the best Christian he had ever met and would not believe me when I insisted I was an atheist.

[bigbadmarty]

Hey craft sorry if you felt judged ; there's nothing worse ...... (paper cut ?)

[craft1948]

I don't feel judged marty, I just mean that I don't think being a good person has necessarily anything to do with a person's faith, or lack of............

[bigbadmarty]

Thats nicely said craft , you come across like a good person .Must go now thanks for the chat :)

[beso]

...as though you would behave like a maniac and do terrible things unless 'someone' told you not to...

Quite the opposite. Religion justifies maniacal behaviour in the name of God

[RATTER15]

"There will always be good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion."

Steven Weinberg, Nobel prize-winning physicist

[Old_Geezer]

"Good" and "Evil" are defined by ourselves: so how do you know your cherished definition of either is right until you hear the booming voice and large hand of God pointing at you ?

Maybe you have it wrong, and it is a good thing to go around giving everyone a punch on the nose ?

[beso]

^^ Probably. God loved to see the cr@p beaten out of people and animal slaughtered for nothing more than burning them to a cinder.

[RATTER15]

Old-Geezer, I think those of us blessed with just a little intelligence know the difference.