Would you forgive God?

[mibn2cweus]

The 'Good *cough* Book' says, ...it is appointed unto a man once to die, and then the judgement.

Suppose that, as it turns out, God's daddy decided to turn the tables and put God on trial, appointing you as judge and jury instead. Would you send your only begotten to die on a cross in an attempt to reconcile God's mistakes . . . or better yet, condemn God to an eternity of torment for His failure to get it right in the first place?

[mike11111]

Oh, for Christ's sake!

[maggiebee]

If you stood in the dock accused of being a Christian, would there be enough evidence to convict you?

[Hopkirk]

As there is no God, this is all a bit pointless really.

[maggiebee]

No God Hopkirk? Are you raving mad?

[mike11111]

Purely as a matter of interest, Hopkirk, if there is no God, how come you are still floating around long after your mate Randall retired?

[wildwood]

So who made the mistakes and who died on the cross? Surely he who created less than perfect being is the culprit, and he send his son to take the rap. Nice!

[mibn2cweus]

//As there is no God, this is all a bit pointless really.//

Consider it a thought experiment for those who believe there is.

Erm . . . perhaps you have a point. :o/

[maggiebee]

Father, son and Holy Ghost - three in one!

[mike11111]

What the ****'s a "thought experiment?" I find God easier to believe in than that twaddle.

[mibn2cweus]

//What the ****'s a "thought experiment?" I find God easier to believe in than that twaddle.//

Case in point?

[mike11111]

1 The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
2 He maketh me to lie down in green pastures:

he leadeth me beside the still waters. Rev. 7.17
3 He restoreth my soul:

he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.
4 Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,

I will fear no evil: for thou art with me;
thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.
5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies:

thou anointest my head with oil;
my cup runneth over.
6 Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life:

and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

[mibn2cweus]

//...thy rod and thy staff they comfort me...//

Yikes!

[humbersloop]

mib, in response to the op, nope.

Judas Iscarriot, now what a challenging job description that is.

[mike11111]

As kids we used to call him Judas the Scallywag.

[beso]

And the Lord condemeth for eternity all women because Eve sineth once.

[naomi24]

No, I wouldn’t forgive him, but I wouldn’t expect anyone else to take responsibility for my mistakes, and I certainly wouldn’t accept it if offered. Furthermore, since I’m not made in this God’s vindictive and spiteful, image, I don’t seek revenge, so I wouldn’t condemn him to eternal torment. That would be cruel. However, in the interests of the safety and well-being of society I would confine him in a high security institution, as I would any other dangerous psychopath, and throw away the key.

Two interesting thoughts coming from this thread.

1 Hopkirk is a ghost, but why should anyone assume that his existence is dependent upon the God of Abraham?

2 Whilst Jesus is claimed by many to be God’s only son, if we are to believe the bible, that isn’t true at all. God had other sons long before Jesus arrived on the scene. Curiouser and curiouser.

Goodnight all. x

[mibn2cweus]

Don't you find it interesting that God punishes Adam and Eve (and subsequently the entire human race) not for their inherent ignorance but for daring to eat of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil thereby acquiring the ability to distinguish right from wrong which might have given them a fighting chance at making the 'right' decision in the first place? What a twisted ideology.

[Answerprancer]

LOL it's late and I'm 'tired and emotional' and I bet I'm not the only one who is trying to work out whether you're a raving christian or the complete opposite.
(I'm too tired and emotional to philosophise). If this is raving christianity - I hope you get cured by the morning. Ah, it is morning ! ...goodnight.

[naomi24]

God is full of twisted ideology. Just think about the psychological torment he inflicted upon Abraham for no rational reason. God told Abraham to sacrifice his beloved son in order to prove his [Abraham’s] fear of God. God, being omniscient, must have been aware of the depth of Abraham’s faith - and he must have known that he [God] would halt the impending slaughter at the eleventh hour. Nevertheless, he conducted his test and watched Abraham suffer. How twisted is that?

By the way, just as God knew what the outcome of Abraham’s test would be, he must also have known when he created Adam and Eve that they would eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil; he knew he would give man free-will - and therefore, the world is what God intended it to be – and man is what God intended him to be.