Do You Believe In Any Of The Following?

[naomi24]

A survey of 2,000 British adults was commissioned to mark the launch of the new TV series ‘Believe’. The poll asked respondents about their beliefs as well as superstitions that still hold sway in 2014, with the following results:

Top 10 Beliefs in Unexplained Phenomena:

1 - Ghosts (33%)
2 - Sixth sense (32%)
3 - UFOs (22%)
4 - Past lives (19%)
5 - Telepathy (18%)
6 - Psychic ability to predict the future (18%)
7 - Psychic healing (16%)
8 - Astrology (10%)
9 - Bermuda Triangle (9%)
10 - Demons (8%)

http://watch.uktv.co.uk/believe/article/do-you-believe/

[ToraToraTora]

I am certain, naomi, because I can do arithmetic.

[mikey4444]

TTT...Aliens are not mentioned specifically in the above list. I take it that you are referring to UFOs when you say that aliens exist ?

It is feasible that aliens exist somewhere in outer space but the incredible distances that would be involved for them to get here, or for us to go and see them, makes their positive discovery to be impossible.

I used to read a lot of Science Fiction when I was younger and have just finished re-reading the "Foundation" series by Asimov, for about the 5th time. In order for his stories to be even remotely believable, he had to invent a form of space travel called a Hyper Jump. But this is completely beyond what science can provide us with today and there is no evidence to suggest that it will ever be possible in the future, unless the basic laws of Physics are incorrect, and/or Einstein was wrong.

The series makes marvelous reading but it is fiction, not fact. We must be careful not to confuse the two.

[mibn2cweus]

'Faster than light' travel is not precluded by relativity.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_travel#Time_dilation

I suspect any beings that achieved it would be quite hungry. For that reason alone, if any aliens ever arrived here on Earth I imagine we'd know about it . . . not that they wouldn't be equally as capable of keeping it a secret. ;o)

[mikey4444]

Interesting link mibn2cweus, but about as believable as Asimov !

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT...Aliens are not mentioned specifically in the above list. I take it that you are referring to UFOs when you say that aliens exist ?

It is feasible that aliens exist somewhere in outer space but the incredible distances that would be involved for them to get here, or for us to go and see them, makes their positive discovery to be impossible. "

Mikey, no I was referring to aliens, it is a statistical certainty that they exist and yes you are correct we will never have any contact.

Even if FTL travel or comms are possible, even if we enter the realm of Sci Fi, it is still not feasable, Warp 10 is far far far far far to slow, even at warp 10000 we could not have a conversation with someone even at the closest known star. That is to the garden gate in galactic terms that is why I am certain.

[puddle-duck]

I keep an open mind on a lot of things. I do believe in aliens though.

[naomi24]

viv, thassa girl!! Me too. Publish and be damned!!

TTT, although most don't trumpet it, lots of us are quite good at sums, but an ability to ‘do arithmetic’ is not sufficient reason to discount this possibility in its entirety.

[naomi24]

TTT, here’s a thought. Stephen Hawking says that man will eventually need to abandon earth and find another home. I imagine that, among other things, he’s also pretty good at sums.

[ToraToraTora]

Naomi, yes it is, do the sums and you'll see. Did you read what I said? Even at warp 10000 communication is not feasable with even the the closest neighbour if they where there.

Tell you what tell me any scenario where humans could communicate with aliens, I'm not talking about physically,I'm not even talking about within the current laws of physics. Ok you have warp 10000 as a ceiling, try and describe to me how we'd communicate with any of the aliens in our galaxy.

[sandyRoe]

In a time far away in the future we, or rather our descendants, will have become aliens from outer space invading and colonizing other worlds.

[ToraToraTora]

yes 4.5 billion years, does he describe how we are going to find another planet? anyway, what does he say about communication with aliens?

[ToraToraTora]

no sandy we won't, the earth dies with our star.
There are milions of goldilocks planets around other stars, none yet discovered.

[Sir Alec]

In his last days, my Dad talked to his dead sisters Alice and Gladys. He asked them where Hilda was. She's still alive. He had an argument with his sister Gerry, shouting, "I'm not coming yet!" He blew kisses at his mother and father.
Two days later he whispered my mother's name and tried to cuddle somebody on the bed beside him, getting frustrated when he couldn't touch her.
In his life previously, he never believed in an afterlife or ghosts because he had no experiences to change his opinion. He didn't know that he was seeing dead people. His father died before I was born.
I've had experiences that I can't explain myself and I'm not ashamed to admit it.

[naomi24]

TTT, you limit the potential of scientific progress to man’s current knowledge – in my opinion a big mistake.

Sir Alec, good for you. People shouldn't be afraid to talk about their experiences for fear of being ridiculed by people who only think they know what they’re talking about.

[ToraToraTora]

I just gave you 10000c to work with!

[naomi24]

TTT, I repeat, you limit the potential of scientific progress to man’s current knowledge – in my opinion a big mistake.

[ToraToraTora]

"TTT, I repeat, you limit the potential of scientific progress to man’s current knowledge – in my opinion a big mistake. " - no I don't limit it, read what I said, even if we learn to travel at 10000 times the speed of light, we still will not ever communicate with aliens. Describe to me how you think it may ever be feasable? some ideas? any amount of sci fi is ok.

[puddle-duck]

I agree with Naomi. What if they have found a way to create portals that makes travelling great distances easier?

These races could be thousands of years more advanced than us and using our scientific progress as a measure to theirs is wrong.