Who Was The Creator?

[naomi24]

The God of Abraham is just one among many.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creator_deity

Other ideas welcome.

[sandyRoe]

The Mbombo of Bakuba must have a very jaundiced view of things if their mythology sees the world being formed from vomit.

[naomi24]

Scrivens, I had to google it - but having done so, it's not a bad suggestion. :o)

[naomi24]

Right. :o)

[Old_Geezer]

They all are. They exist in a quantum state until you decide which to believe in, then for you that's the one.

[mibn2cweus]

'Who' was the creator? Doctor or no doctor, I wouldn't necessarily take everything an owl says for gospel . . . in spite of their alleged wisdom.

http://mattcbr.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/1201552847462.jpg

[jomifl]

Sandy the existence of vomit presupposes the existence of a stomach and that presupposes the need for a stomach which in turn would require a being containing the stomach, food etc. Same old problem..

[scooping]

A tangential point, maybe, but never understood the concept, not, particularly a religious one, that we are all made from stardust. Something rather appealing about it. Can anyone enlighten me before I reach for my late Sixties long-players?

[joggerjayne]

The original creator was Bondye.

For such a great deity, he's quite low maintenance. As long as we sacrifice the odd chicken to his acolytes, he seems happy.

[jim360]

Possibly a question for another thread, unless Naomi doesn't mind?

Briefly, though, it is the energy of dying and exploding stars that is needed to create the heavier elements -- Carbon, Oxygen, Iron, etc (and basically everything with a higher atomic number than 4 or 5). These elements are what make up much of modern life, and they were produced in novae and supernovae, and blasted out into space. Eventually some of that material arrived here, in the Solar System, and ultimately became the Earth and the other planets and all life in this system. In a sense, then, we are made of stardust.

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Do we need a creator at all?

[joggerjayne]

Scooping, is that because matter can neither be created, nor destroyed? (it can only change its form)

So all the matter in the universe, including the matter from which we are made, was there at the beginning of time ... when there was nothing but gig, exploding stars.

Is that it?

[joggerjayne]

*big ... not "gig"

[naomi24]

Jim, do please post another thread with that question. It's an interesting subject.

[jomifl]

Of course jim, to create the creator.,.

[naomi24]

Oh oh, Jom. Houston, we have a problem.

[scooping]

Sorry Naomi24 should have put my remarks on a different thread.

[naomi24]

No problem, scooping. Discussions, like everything else, evolve.

[Old_Geezer]

You need a creator to provide the existence of maths, and the ability to be uncertain at all.

[jim360]

What?

That quantum thing you were saying doesn't make all that much sense either, I don't think. I don't think it means what you seem to think it does.