Trying To Rewrite History.

[webbo3]

More leftie snowflakes trying to be pc and rewrite history.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4098332/They-Kant-PC-students-demand-white-philosophers-including-Plato-Descartes-dropped-university-syllabus.html


\\But now students at a University of London college are demanding that such seminal figures as Plato, Descartes, Immanuel Kant and Bertrand Russell should be largely dropped from the curriculum simply because they are white.//

\\The students say it is in order to ‘decolonise’ the ‘white institution’ that is their college.//


Dave.

[dannyk13]

Keep the subjects and if the students do not want to study them then tell them they will not bee granted a degree.

[jno]

at the School of Oriental and African Studies? It would seem to make more sense to study philosophers from Asia, at least (I'm not sure how many have come from Africa)

[Gromit]

Webbo,

I had no idea that Kant and Decartes were African. Thanks for enlightening me webbo.

[Zacs-Master]

From the Uni website: "At SOAS you can study a wider range of religious and philosophical traditions in more depth than any other programme in the field, anywhere in the world."

Best edit that then.

[mikey4444]

Another non-story from the DM, blown up out of all proportion.

A few students as one University.

[sp1814]

Snowflakes?

What's this new term?

[fiction-factory]

Type Your Answer Here...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Generation_Snowflake
I assumed it was a 70s term used to describe white people (either Love Thy Neighbour or by Charlie Williams) but it seems to be used to represent those who take offence easily

[sp1814]

Thanks ff.

I thought at first it might be a race term, but it didn't make sense in the context of the question.

So to summarise...the School of Oriental and African Studies is insisting that when studying philosophy the majority of philosophers on their courses should be from Africa and Asia.

webbo3 - I think I can see the logic here.

What is the issue, as you see it?

[mikey4444]

Sp....slightly wrong there....its not the University but a group of students that are demanding this ....a quote from the DM link :::

"University of London college students have demanded figures like Kant and Plato be dropped because they are white"

[Zacs-Master]

It would be a very short course without any white philosophers wouldn't it.

[mikey4444]

Zacs....which is a good reason that this will not happen !

[CrapAtCryptics]

What planet do these people live on - if they are the future I`m glad i wont be there.

[woofgang]

well I ‘d be peeved too. If I went to a school of mathematics, I’d want to study mathematics and not cookery. If you want to study Africa and the Orient, then unless its contextual, surely its a waste of course time studying European philosophy?

[douglas9401]

What we need is a good old book burning along the lines of their spiritual ancestors in 1930s Germany.

Ignorant, bone idle wasters.

[anotheoldgit]

It's indoctrination, and not education.

[mikey4444]

Dougie....what we really want is for the DM to stop making mountains out of very small mole hills !

[Zacs-Master]

It would be were it to be implemented.

[Zacs-Master]

That was to AOG.

[New Judge]

Yes there was a good article by Tom Utley last week about the very issue of “Snowflakes”:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/columnist-1000961/Tom-Utley-Daily-Mail.html

A couple of extracts:

“Over at Stirling University, young archaeologists are given a ‘warning in advance of one image in a PowerPoint, which is of a well preserved archaeological body from an archaeological context’. Students are alerted to the ‘risk it is found a bit gruesome’.

“The same university even warns students of ‘gender studies’ (don’t ask me): ‘We cannot anticipate or exclude the possibility that you may encounter material which is triggering [i.e., which can trigger a negative reaction] and we urge that you take all necessary precautions to look after yourself in and around the programme.’ It goes on to say: ‘You can, of course, leave a class at any time should you need to. But please check in later that day to let us know how you are.’”

“Back in Glasgow, warnings are also given to veterinary students, who work with dead animals, and those studying ‘contemporary society’, who may be subjected to the trauma of discussing illness and violence.”

“Perhaps more surprising still, at Glasgow’s Strathclyde University they even see fit to warn students of forensic science ‘at the beginning of some lectures where sensitive images involving blood patterns, crime scenes and bodies etc are in the presentation’.”

When hearing of some of the ridiculous claptrap spouted by these establishments it is little wonder that students at some of them are trying to airbrush from their delicate minds references to anything with which they remotely disagree or which they may find not quite to their taste. This is why we see “snowflakes” in tears when they learn of an election or referendum result which went against their wishes. They cannot handle disappointment; they cannot cope with defeat; someone must “safeguard” their sensitivities at all times.

From the day I began my grammar school education I was encouraged to be robust, self-reliant and told to cope with things that were thrown at me (including board rubbers and textbooks). Nobody suggested that, when subject to a mass slippering for a minor misdemeanour, my form-mates and I might find the Dunlop Green Flash would bring on a “triggering” event. By the time I’d reached my mid-teens I’d been slippered regularly, cut up sheeps’ eyes, blown things up in the Chemistry lab, read about the torture and executions carried out in Europe in the name of religion and fallen into the river Thames whilst rowing. I was no snowflake and by the time I'd reached adulthood I could cope with whatever I encountered.

We mollycoddle these young adults at our peril. We need people who can cope with life, not run away to hide and pretend that life does not exist.

[sp1814]

This is a being proposed by the School of Oriental and African Studies. The school no doubt needs to focus on Oriental and African philosophers, rather than Western philosophy.

With that in mind, they have the following:

List of African philosophers:

Algerian
Louis Althusser
Mohammed Arkoun
Augustine of Hippo
Malek Bennabi
Albert Camus
Jacques Derrida
Frantz Fanon
Bernard-Henri Lévy
Djillali Liabes
Mohammed Chaouki Zine

Beninese
Paulin J. Hountondji

Congolese
Jacques Depelchin
V. Y. Mudimbe
Ernest Wamba dia Wamba
Theophile Obenga

Egyptian
Mustafa 'Abd al-Raziq
Arnouphis
Abdel Rahman Badawi
Mohamed Osman Elkhosht
George of Laodicea
Hassan Hanafi
Ihab Hassan
Suzy Kassem
Zaki Naguib Mahmoud
Abdel Wahab El-Messiri
Plotinus
Rifa'a al-Tahtawi
Fouad Zakariyya

Ethiopian
Walda Heywat
Zera Yacob

Ghanaian
Kwame Nkrumah
Al-Hajj Salim Suwari
Anton Wilhelm Amo
W. E. B. Du Bois
Kwame Gyekye
Ato Sekyi-Otu
Kwasi Wiredu

Hellenistic
Apollodorus of Athens
Clitomachus
Dio of Alexandria
Dionysius of Cyrene
Heraclides Lembus
Hypatia
Lacydes of Cyrene

Kenyan
John Mbiti
Micere Githae Mugo
Henry Odera Oruka
Ngũgĩ wa Thiong'o

Libyan
Sextus Julius Africanus
Aref Ali Nayed

Moroccan
Taha Abdurrahman
Alain Badiou
Bensalem Himmich
Mohammed Abed al-Jabri
Mohammed Aziz Lahbabi
Judah ben Nissim
Mohammed Sabila
Abu al-Abbas as-Sabti
Mohammed Allal Sinaceur
Hourya Sinaceur
Abdellatif Zeroual

Nigerian
Obafemi Awolowo
John Olubi Sodipo
Chinua Achebe
Wole Soyinka
Nana Asma'u
Emmanuel Chukwudi Eze
Usman dan Fodio
Josephat Obi Oguejiofor
Ike Odimegwu
Olusegun Oladipo
Kolawole Olu-Owolabi
Oba

Rwandan
Alexis Kagame

Senegalese
Cheikh Anta Diop
Gaston Berger
Souleymane Bachir Diagne

South African
David Benatar
John McDowell

Tanzanian
Julius k nyerere

Tunisian
Rachida Triki