Resurrection Did Not Happen, Say Quarter Of Christians

[mikey4444]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-39153121

Leaving aside the inaccuracy of these Polls, I think its incredible if any Christian doesn't believe in the resurrection. If they think it never happened, how on earth can they call themselves Christians ?

Isn't this a central plank of Christian belief ?

Shakes head in amazement !

[steg]

This may be of interest to you mikey

https://progressivechristianity.org/resources/why-i-dont-believe-in-a-physical-resurrection-of-jesus/

[mikey4444]

OG...perhaps I have it wrong, but as I understand it, Christianity didn't exist until after the events of the life of Jesus happened.

The religion was invented in those early years, as an off-shoot of Judaism, and it all came from the life of Jesus. So if Christians believe that Jesus dies to save us, then it seems odd that some, at least, cast doubt on the Resurrection.

[Old_Geezer]

BTW I don't consider any part of the religion to be core. That's for the literalists. The morality and belief in the spiritual as taught by the religion defines the believer not having to accept a list of "must believes".

[Old_Geezer]

IMO Christianity is more concerned with the teachings of Jesus than the OT, or the tales of Jesus himself.

[THECORBYLOON]

In 2002, Christian Research carried out a survey.
"A third of Church of England clergy doubt or disbelieve in the physical Resurrection and only half are convinced of the truth of the Virgin birth, according to a new survey.

The poll of nearly 2,000 of the Church's 10,000 clergy also found that only half believe that faith in Christ is the only route to salvation."

[mikey4444]

I was always led to believe that the virgin birth was due to a misunderstanding about the word "virgin", in that it was presumed in the very early years of Christianity, that any unmarried girl, must therefore be a virgin.

[woofgang]

more or less mikey...as I understand it, its a word drift. The word “parthenos” used in the original greek meant a young woman.....later it drifted to mean a virgin.

My take on much of the miraculous side of christianity is that it actually doesn’t matter, it doesn’t make god exist or not exist and it doesn’t make the messages of how to live a good life any more or less valid. There are some interesting arguments about why certain things didn’t happen in the way that they were reported in the bible.....I think the best one is the miracle of loaves and fishes. The alternative explanation to the miraculous multiplying of food is simpler but, to me at least, more in keeping with what Jesus’ message was about. It is that when the crowd saw Jesus and the disciples sharing the little that they had, then they all did the same and that was how everyone was fed....kind of like stone soup.

[woofgang]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stone_Soup

[RATTER15]

Well Christians also believe in talking snakes, that God gave us night and day three days before he gave us "two lights" the sun and the moon, and that he flooded the whole world and crammed all those creatures into a big boat that was built by Noah when he was about 400 years old and it took about 100 years to build. I think anybody who believes that load of twaddle will believe absolutely anything!

[naomi24]

//it all came from the life of Jesus//

Not so. It came initially from St Paul (who never met Jesus), other later writers, and the various Councils that gathered centuries after the event. Belief in the resurrection is fundamental to conservative Christians, but not necessarily to others. I don’t believe Jesus died on the cross, less still in the resurrection – but I’m not a Christian.

[redvanman]

Story made up and invented by man

[woofgang]

"Well Christians also believe in talking snakes, that God gave us night and day three days before he gave us "two lights" the sun and the moon, and that he flooded the whole world and crammed all those creatures into a big boat that was built by Noah when he was about 400 years old and it took about 100 years to build. I think anybody who believes that load of twaddle will believe absolutely anything!"
Not all of them Ratter....and there are plenty of atheists who believe that the world is flat!

[Khandro]

woofgang, The old testament Noah, isn't fundamental to the Christian religion or belief, surely you know that.

[woofgang]

khandro not sure what your point is, I was quoting and answering Ratter.....and you haven’t answered my question.

[mikey4444]

Redvanman....I agree....all religions are made-up and invented by man. Its the simple application of illogical thinking and irrational circumstances.

But like Hoppy earlier, I do find this disbelieving bit extraordinary.

[douglas9401]

As the recently departed philosopher and cool cat George Michael once stated, 'you gotta have faith'.

Otherwise its just the ramblings of the ancients, a bit like 'here be dragons', 'lucky white heather' and 'burn the witch'.

[hereIam]

I have a dear friend who is a lovely person and a Christian and even she doesn't believe wholeheartedly in everything in the Bible.

[baza]

I am a Christian but NOT a bishop of anywhere. Am I going wrong somewhere?

[mikey4444]

Baz.....you are obviously not trying hard enough !

[Khandro]

According to the 2011 census there are 37.5 million people self-defining as Christians in the UK, so that is possibly how many versions of Christianity there are.

To seriously answer the OP, I believe (and so does naomi - if I may speak for her - and many others) that Christ existed, that he was crucified and he survived the crucifixion and very likely died in India. So there is a sense in which it can be said, that he was 'resurrected' from the jaws of death.