Can Anyone Please Explain

[nailit]

to me why faith is a 'virtue'?
Never understood it myself.
Serious question....

[Theland]

"Told why the Jews are in Israel."
Seriously?
The prophecies predicted it.
It happened.
What more to say?
Should we dispute by what agency it came about?

[naomi24]

//Should we dispute by what agency it came about? //

Indeed we should. Realistically God wasn't responsible for it, was he.

[Theland]

Oh if you say so.
You must be right. There. Happy?

[naomi24]

I'm always happy. Being realistic helps. Try it.

[Theland]

Oh do stop being so adversarial.
It doesn't win arguments, even if it boosts your ego.
Definitely not impressed.

[naomi24]

Haha! And I'm adversarial? ;o)

[vulcan42]

Theland, why do you and other theists place so much importance on biblical prophecies? A prophecy says something will happen and sometimes it eventually does, so what, it was no more than a lucky, or in same cases an unlucky, guess. Just because an event was prophesied and then happens doesn't make the prophecy something wonderful and mysterious attributable to your God, why do you think it does?

[Theland]

If the Bible predicts an event, and it happens, should we accept that, or say, well, if it wasn't for such and such it wouldn't have happened?
But it happened!
God uses the agency of men to fulfil His prophecy!

[naomi24]

And if the Bible predicts an event and it doesn't happen .... what then, Theland?

[retrocop]

Ask for a refund

[Theland]

Naomi - I really feel sorry for you.
Your participation in these threads is obviously not purely academic.
You are looking for reassurance that death is death.
Sad really.
So much time and energy wasted.

[1ozzy]

I once dated a girl called Faith, she was far from virtuous, much to my surprise ;-/

[naomi24]

Theland, //You are looking for reassurance that death is death. //

What on earth are you talking about?

[vulcan42]

" So much time and energy wasted".
Which can equally be said about all the religions in this world.

[Theland]

So says Vulcan.
Game set and match!
Can't argue with that can I ?

[nailit]

Theland @ 03:15 Mon 07th Jan
//Nailit, you never found the faith that others did//
How do you know that? Are you a mind reader?

Theland @ 08:42 Mon 07th Jan
//Naomi - I really feel sorry for you.
Your participation in these threads is obviously not purely academic.
You are looking for reassurance that death is death//
Again, are you a mind reader?

Why do people like you presume to ''know'' what others think?
That attitude is the height of arrogance.

[Theland]

The height of ignorance. Well thank you for that.

[waterboatman]

The Faith I know is gorgeous!

[Jackdaw33]

I think some people need to learn the meaning of the word 'prophesy'. It means to speak out, not foretell the future.

[Theland]

I am tired. Nailit and Naomi speak to me as if I am a complete idiot or disingenuous.
Maybe I am the former, but not the latter.
Never mind. Onwards and upwards.