Theland

[nailit]

Weve had our spats on here and biblical apologetics has been done to death.

But Im genuinely interested...
When you read the Old Testament, what does your conscience say?
When you read of God ordering killings, war and genocide, when you read of injust laws been implemented and God ordering the execution of rebellious teenagers or women that don't bleed on their wedding night or rape victims having to marry their rapist so that they can be *kept* for the rest of their lives (by their rapist)
Doesn't that repel you in any way?

Just trying to understand the mind of a literalist bible believer.

[nailit]

//Add Hitler to the list.
Commendable chaps.
Never hid.
Always honest and open.
What's not to like?//

BibleGod... smiting his way around Palestine, ordering the destruction of tribe after tribe, drowning an entire planet, having men, women, children and animals put to the sword, burying people alive, sending bears and snakes to kill people, killing all the firstborn of a nation because of the hardness of its leader, ordering the stoning to death of rebellious children, women who don't bleed on their wedding night and those who follow another faith, burning to death of people, sending plagues on people, giving rules on how to enslave others, punishing people for the 'faults' of their ancestors and threatening eternal torment for those that reject his 'goodness'.

Very commendable God.
Never hid,
Honest and open.
Whats not to like?

[nailit]

“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.” ...Voltaire

[Atheist]

Theland. //I get more peace from prayerfully thanking Him for His blessings, and seeking His guidance, than I do from any human contact, unless of course, it appears that God has intervened in my life, and sent a message via a person.//

God has told me to tell you that you should think for yourself and not waste time worshipping the false christian illusion. He says that you shouldn't devote your life to cultivating square toes and hatred and distrust of his other creatures. He also says that if you ignore my message he won't punish or torment you, and also that he is not a he, he is not a she. He says, "Chill, bro."

[naomi24]

Theland, Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, all deeply flawed human beings. What’s your perfect God’s excuse?

[Theland]

Ha Ha I expected this. So not disappointed.
The gangs' all here!

[andy-hughes]

Theland - // Ha Ha I expected this. So not disappointed.
The gangs' all here! //

Your think skin is showing again.

This is not a 'gang' - this is people responding to your post, which is rather the idea of a site like this.

If you don't like the posts or reactions you receive, there is a simple solution …

[naomi24]

Theland, stop playing the victim. You’re not. Your callousness here is shocking. Have you thought about how Mibs post at 04:45 Wed relates to your attitude?

[Theland]

I am not a victim.
I don't have thin skin.
I don't know of any follower of Jesus Christ who has ever, or would ever, consider flying a plane into a tall building.
I am in fact at a loss as to how to address the stupidity and ignorance that passes for a serious comment.
Nothing serious about it.
Actually, I am certain that the deliberate provocative responses are nothing more than an attempt to light the blue touch paper, and stand back waiting for fireworks, and munching on popcorn.
I wouldn't mind a discussion between equals approaching the subject from different directions, but not this rubbish alas.

[Atheist]

Theland. I'd like an intelligent conversation with you, but I have never found you willing to converse with me; you usually say something that I can't really understand. Can't we talk human to human? Simple language, simple concepts. I reach out to you but you don't reach back.

[Theland]

I would love to.
I am not an expert on Christianity, I don't know all the answers, neither am I prepared to spend hours researching and answer to a question posed by an atheist, a question designed to trip me up.
I want to share my faith, but not set myself up for abuse and ridicule.
I CAN take the abuse and ridicule, it just so time consuming and exhausting, and, I really do have a life other than Answerbank.

[naomi24]

Theland, you have justified the wholesale slaughter of men, women and children. That is not the product of a rational mind. It is the product of the mind of a religious fanatic.

[Khandro]

nailit; Your quoting of Voltaire, //“Those who can make you believe absurdities, can make you commit atrocities.”//

This does not necessarily relate to Religion, in fact most atrocities have been carried out under the banners of Communism, Nazism, Fascism and other assorted atheist ideologies.

If you want to quote atrocities carried out purely in the name of Christianity, you will probably have to go back to the 11th century.

[naomi24]

Khandro, //This does not necessarily relate to Religion//

Nailit didn't say it did. Fanatics abound.

[Theland]

Naomi - You read minds now?
No end to your talents.
More boosts to your ego?
Enjoy!

[naomi24]

No Theland, I don’t read minds. I read only what you write.

Khandro, incidentally you wouldn’t have to go all the way back to the 11th century to discover atrocities committed by Christians and Stalin et al didn’t do what they did in the name of atheism. Atheism isn’t a club. Furthermore the Nazis were not atheists.

[Theland]

The men you cite, Nazis, Stalinists etc were certainly not Christians.
What is your point?

[vulcan42]

Theland, the point is the Wehrmacht had Gott mit uns on their belt buckles, Why was the entire German army made to wear these buckles if Hitler wasn't a Christian?

[Theland]

So calling oneself a Christian, without actually following the teachings of Jesus Christ, is enough to convince you that they were indeed God fearing Christians?

Wow! That is incredible.

[vulcan42]

Why do Christians fear God?

[Theland]

Check out the deeper meanings of fear.