Our Home - The Speck Of Dust

[naomi24]

NASA has just released images of a black hole located in a distant galaxy.

It measures 40 billion km across - three million times the size of the Earth - and has been described by scientists as "a monster". The black hole is 500 MILLION TRILLION km away.

Logically, do those enormous distances not encourage the creationist fraternity to wonder if they’re mistaken? Do they not ask why, from this whole unimaginably vast universe, a creator God would have selected this minute speck of dust located somewhere near the outer reaches of a fairly minor galaxy – just one of an estimated 2000 billion galaxies each containing billions of stars – as home to his beloved(?) creation – man?

Personally, I cannot believe we’re that special. What say you?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-47873592

[naomi24]

10ClarionSt, //Dunno about any of that, but what is the dark area behind all the stars, galaxies, etc? //

Please tell me you jest.

[10ClarionSt]

Naomi, I believe it's called Dark Matter and nobody knows what it is or why we are able to see through it. Any ideas?

[naomi24]

Dark matter is thought to exist throughout the universe. Not 'behind' all the 'stars, galaxies, etc'. They're not on a flat surface.

[douglas9401]

You say that, Naomi, but 'ripples in space/time' could just be the way the backdrop curtain hangs.

I pleat a special case.

[Spicerack]

'The universe is not only queerer than we imagine, it's queerer than we can imagine'.
To those scoffing at the believers, I have to say that some of our most famous scientists, who've forgotten more about this stuff than all of you put together will ever know, believe in some sort of God.

[naomi24]

Douglas, :o)

[spathiphyllum]

Our planet is simply a spec of dust, suspended in a light beam.

Brilliant thread Naomi.

The density of the black hole would be incomprehensible for me.

Yes i do question how accurate this picture is. However, from the looks of the photo, it's not very clear at all. The tech behind the storyis much more interesting than the photo itself.

"Personally, I cannot believe we’re that special. What say you? "


Absolutely agree. It's typical human arrogance. Just because we're more aware, we feel not only are we more important than 99.9% of life on the planet, but we also consider ourselfs the centre of the universe and centre of importance. (or some do)

Typical human perspective and arrogance.

We will only ever be able to think as humans.

Humans are typically humans, if you get what i mean by that.

[Theland]

Naomi - A totally expected put down from you.
You asked for my opinion.
I gave it.
You could not resist the opportunity to accuse me of preaching, and the coup de grace phrase at the end.
Another example of Naomi self promotion.

[naomi24]

Theland, you've not responded to the question "do those enormous distances not encourage the creationist fraternity to wonder if they’re mistaken?", but you have given your opinion that God created the universe. The rest is superfluous - or to put it another way, preaching.

Your rudeness is also superfluous.

[Theland]

Not rudeness. Observation.

[beso]

By astronomical standards that Black Hole isn't even very far away.

[naomi24]

No, Theland, rudeness. Stick to the OP please.

[naomi24]

beso, unimaginable distances.

[beso]

Theland //God is the Uncaused eternal First Cause //

Needing the most complex thing in the Universe to have always existed is the big weakness in a theory that demand that everything has a designer that is more complex than it.

Meanwhile science has shown that there is no need for an ultimate cause of everything because Nothing is impossible. The Laws of Physics show precisely how everything we now see developed from a single pixel of intense amorphous energy.

So much more comprehensible than the idea of a god.

[Theland]

Beso - I too have looked at this with interest.
Two of the champions of this,"Universe From Nothing," are/were Hawking and Krausse.
Both had flawed theories in my opinion.
Neither would shake my faith in a Creator God.

[Theland]

The universe exists within God, God is not a part of His own creation.
He is not therefore the most complex thing in the universe, but the agent creator who hold everything together.
There is a difference.

[Theland]

That was preaching facts.
To the OP yes we are very special.

[jno]

///you've not responded to the question "do those enormous distances not encourage the creationist fraternity to wonder if they’re mistaken?", but you have given your opinion that God created the universe.///

Seems like he has answered the question, then?

[naomi24]

Jno, hmmmm. So although he hasn’t said, I am to assume he’s never questioned it. Okay.

Theland, //That was preaching facts. //

Not a fact; to be found in any of that.

//To the OP yes we are very special.//

I’m not. What makes you think you are - and isn't that just a teensy bit arrogant?

[spathiphyllum]

Naomi would you agree humans are naturally arrogant?