Life

[Theland]

If you don't believe in God, then you don't believe God created life.
But the secular materialist scientists have found it impossible to create even the simplest life form in the laboratory.
So, do you have an explanation?

[Theland]

Chance? What is the chance of something from nothing?
There has to be a first cause, and for me that is God.

[THECORBYLOON]

As I said earlier there are trillions of planets in a universe that is billions of years old. Why could a random combination of chemicals in a random medium one of those planets not produce the first basic components of life?

[vulcan42]

" I doubt your honest appraisal of the evidence"
Instead of calling naomi a liar produce this evidence.

[archibaldy]

// Archibaldy - study your own article. It is akin to a very sophisticated robot doll. Man made and no natural processes. //

You will see I didn't offer the link as an experiment that fulfils your criteria - although I don't know how you expect life created by man not to be man made to some degree (I sense an ever shifting goalpost with this one!) - just as an example of how this field is progressing that may be of interest to you.

So how about answering the question I asked you please: If scientists do create life using a truly 'natural' (read 'meets your experimental criteria') method does that mean God doesn't exist?

[naomi24]

Vulcan, //" I doubt your honest appraisal of the evidence"
Instead of calling naomi a liar produce this evidence. /

Thank you. Much appreciated. Theland?

[Theland]

Naomi - I do not consider you a liar, and would never be so insulting.

[Theland]

I I consider you very biased.

[naomi24]

But you say you doubt my honest appraisal, Theland. What does that equate to?

[Theland]

I do not consider you dishonest, but biased and selective in considering the evidence.

[naomi24]

Theand, Selective how? I take seriously the bits you refuse to take seriously because they don’t suit your agenda? That’s not selective. That’s honest.

[Theland]

There was a time many years ago that I shared your views, but then was confronted by circumstances that demanded I consider all of the evidence. I did and came to my present conclusions.
I think you are stuck in a place dictated by the prevailing worldview of the age.
I have suggested evidence in the past only to be ridiculed and written off.
I changed my views completely whereas you are rigid in yours.

[naomi24]

Theland, you don't consider all the evidence. You only consider the bits that suit your agenda - and those you grab and cling to.

[Peter Pedant]

yeah - go on trying !

there is no doubt that evolution exists - because you can see it - bacteria and antibiotic resistance for example
so we know that life is not static....
so it boils down to how important evolution is in changing life forms ....

and geology - thos are changing - is god doing it or are natural forces ? Dons at Cambridge ( priests most of them ) agreed ( 'naturalism' ) that recourse to God should not be made if there were adequate natural physical explanattions
and that was 1820 for chrissakes.... ( Lyell )

[Peter Pedant]

// I did and came to my present conclusions. //

there is no reason why you should not do that - altho your conclusions are wrong - but so what? I bet you voted for Brexit

and when that goes tots up - are you going to blame God
or is that disaster suddenly going to be man made?

[Theland]

Yes it's true Peter. Bacteria do indeed evolve - into bacteria. Well observed.

[Theland]

Naomi - You are wrong. I consider all of the evidence, and see which is the weightiest..
Scriptures and science all point towards God.

[Mamyalynne]

Theland, I know I've tried this approach before and failed, however - to be as sure and confident in the origins of life as you are must give you so much contentment.

Why then do you feel the need to persuade others they may be wrong?

Do you feel a sense of duty to do this?

[Theland]

Mamya - yes to a certain extent it is a sense of duty, but I do not impose my views. Those who respond to me make a choice. They can always ignore me, which is fine.
What annoys me are posts from people who have no interest in anything I say, but feel compelled to criticise or insult anyway.

[Theland]

I am also very interested in other people's preferred explanation of the big questions, the universe, origin of life, etc.

[Mamyalynne]

Very interesting, do you know where this sense of duty came from?

Do you find contentment hard to handle otherwise?