I Do Not Believe That There Are Any Gods.

[SparklyKid]

Any proof that there are. Apart from silly notions like the the wonders of nature.

[nailit]

//Apart from silly notions like the the wonders of nature//
Once had a conversation with a Christian friend along the same lines while enjoying a sunset on a deserted clifftop, with the beach below and the waves crashing on the shore on a lovely, hot summer night.
It was a really tranquil, beautiful scene. The ''How can there NOT be a God'' quote came up.
I kept my mouth shut and silently wondered if he would have said the same thing if he had found himself in the middle of a tornado, earthquake or flood. Or struck by lightening or frostbite etc.
Personally, I find myself leaning more and more towards Paganism and a respect/reverence for nature.
(That's me out of the closet then ;-) )

[Baldric]

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Having watched two minutes of it I can't imagine anyone spending an hour and a quarter watching that carp.

[pixie374]

Theland //Faith in God or faith in science?
Either way, it is faith.//

No, they are opposites. Proof and faith are nothing like the same.

[Theland]

Pixie - Is there proof for the claims the scientists make?
I can't find any that isn't full of holes, so yes faith.

[pixie374]

The claims they make, will have proof, yes. If there is no proof, they keep looking until either they find it, or discard it. Science is full of questions until it is "known". Religion just accepts the first answer and sticks with it.

[naomi24]

Theland, no holes in faith. A bit like the King's New Clothes. No holes in those either.

[pixie374]

No holes in anything that doesn't exist.

[Theland]

David Attenborough and Dawkins to name but two BELIEVE that life came from inorganic chemicals.
No proof. That is faith.

[pixie374]

No theland, faith is believing something without proof. Funding evidence and proof and believing something is fair enough, because if opposing proof arrived, they would change their minds.

[Theland]

Pixie, I think you,miss the point. They have no demonstrable,proof that life arose from chemicals.
Miller / Urey experiment in 1953 they thought came close but it was trashed later. Nothing since.
No,proof but they believe, the
At is blind faith.

[Theland]

That is

[pixie374]

Belief is fine, theland. If there is some evidence to rule things in or out, fair enough, but you still seem confused between faith and proof.

[vulcan42]

belief is thinking something is true without proof, faith is saying something is true without proof.

[Theland]

Pixie - What exactly convinces you that life came from chemicals. Just your own opinion, as if you were sitting on a jury.

[Theland]

https://youtu.be/XzXw3fGP2Tw
Ezekiel 47 prophecy coming true now!

[naomi24]

Theland, //Ezekiel 47 prophecy coming true now!//

Even though, once again, you have failed to have the courtesy to tell us what you’re taking about – and I’ve no intention of wasting my time watching your interminable videos - I do know what this is about.

Just a couple of snags in your theory, the main one being that there is and never has been a vast river flowing out of Jerusalem into the Dead Sea – and any life that exists in the vicinity of that vast body of water exists only in fresh water sink holes. Back to the drawing board.

[pixie374]

Theland, I haven't said I'm "convinced" about anything. Neither do I have the answers that would enable me to sit on a jury. Atheism isn't a following where all believe the same.

[beso]

God started out with just a void. He simply said, "let there be whatever" and out of the void came whatever.

So why does Theland have such a hard time with science also having something manifesting from nothing? Not much different really except science doesn't require the most complex thing in the universe be there from the start without any explanation.

Moreover science describes the coherent universal mechanisms that precisely explain how everything we see today is the result of a few simple relationships between energy and matter which are actually two sides of the same coin.

Religion can't explain any mechanisms and insists that God is "mysterious".

[Theland]

Describe the void?

[Mamyalynne]

Empty.