Atheism, Agnosticism, Belief.

[Theland]

Nine and a half minutes. Very interesting.
Presented by Dinesh D'Souza, featuring Neo de Grasses Tyson.

https://youtu.be/jYi7yHeKBEI

[Zacs-Master]

Nope.

‘ rely very much on hyper speculation’ like the speculation that a being you admit to searching for but will never find created life, the universe, and everything?

[Atheist]

Thanks Theland. What puzzles me is why you seemed to put down the idea of panspermia. Most of your science criticism seems to be based on your religious beliefs, but I see no reason for you to object to panspermia on those grounds.

[Theland]

Ah yes I see that now.
That demands further explanation.
I attribute everything to God, in truth He touched my life to the point that for me there is never a question of me turning back.
But the more I journey, seeing Him, ''through a glass darkly,'' the clearer He becomes, the next step on the journey begins.
I can hardly begin to tell you how difficult it has been, is, and will be. It comes at great cost.
God is elusive yet imminent, subjective yet immediately available to the genuine seeker.

[naomi24]

Theland, whatever you think you have no business writing the tripe you wrote at 06:22 to anyone. What an insufferably arrogant little man you are. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[vulcan42]

\\ Vulcan, what proof would you accept?//

Nothing from the bible as even you don't accept all of it so why should I accept any of it and nothing from you tube preachers whose main concern is making money, or, like Dinesh D'Souza, who spent nearly ten minutes explaining how smart he is.
To make it simple, proof that can be explained in your own words and can be verified.

[Theland]

When the low punch fails, punch lower eh Naomi?
Why not get back on track and discuss the subject, rather than witness you building up your ego?
A horrible little man?
Well, maybe. In fact others may share your opinion.
But you missed out one adjective - honest.

[Theland]

Vulcan, I read the bible as it was written, and for whom it was written. Nothing more, nothing less.
Ah yes, the money preachers. Handle with care! They lay snares and traps and deviate from the Word, forever selling books and tat, and never tiring of quoting Malachi 3.
Sadly, millions fall for it. There must be a special place in hell for them.
But we have a safeguard. The scriptures.
Anybody deviating from the sacred yardstick of the scriptures should be binned off.
You are right to be suspicious. Always be on your guard.
Test the preachers against the scriptures. Its not always easy, but always rewarding.
Thanks for you post.

[Theland]

Zacs They speculate on fantasy, I don't.
My journey is to know God better, to have Him more and more in my life. The difference is infinite.

[naomi24]

You need a better PR man than yourself, theland.

[Zacs-Master]

‘ They speculate on fantasy, I don't’

You delude yourself, my friend. And that’s the Oreo type of delusion because it means your wasting your precious time.

[Zacs-Master]

Worst not Oreo

[vulcan42]

Theland, your answer at 13:51 was nothing more than I expected, a lot of words but little meaning. It proved nothing, you seem to live a life based on speculation rather than facts.

[Theland]

Vulcan, I try to follow the science, and thankfully there are many scientists devoted to conveying their research into common language.
So what have they found? Where are they up to?
As per Sean Carroll for example, the most fundamental or, ''necessary,'' situation so far discovered are energy fields, and these are governed by physical laws.
The science has discovered several of these fields, that when excited, and bound to obey physical laws, they can collapse into sub atomic particles.
The electromagnetic field will collapse into photons - ''Let there be light!''
Nothing so far has contradicted the bible.
Physical laws suggest a lawgiver, and add to that the apparent necessity of an observer conscience to sustain reality.
So I am quite happy discussing the science, and wait for the science to disprove the bible, which so far it hasn't to the great chagrin of so many atheists, who hate the god in whom they don't believe. Crazy eh?

[Theland]

Zacs - The worst kind of delusion? I'm all ears. How am I deluding myself? What is it you know that I am missing?
Please, fill in the gaps.

[Theland]

Vulcan - Dr James Tour, one of the, if not the worlds leading molecular chemists - seven minutes.
https://youtu.be/e6Qf4Iu6O94

[Theland]

//You need a better PR man than yourself, theland.//
Well that comment from you Naomi totally meaningless!
Why do I need PR?
Remember, I don't count! I'm not trying to sell myself!
The quest for popularity is your game, not mine.
I began trying to have a discussion, but you, as usual, have turned it upside down into a vehicle on which you strut your stuff, giving short shrift to your detractors.
Your comments are hollow and meaningless, and I fear there are plenty more where they came from.
Its amazing more people aren't more fed up with your directionless meanderings.

[Atheist]

Theland, as a change from worrying about science, why not chill out to a little light music from a musical genius?

[Atheist]

Frank Zappa; the one with the Ned Flanders mustache.

[Atheist]

Serious musician, no Spinal Tap flailing or gurning, no needless repetition, always creative and developing his theme.

[allenlondon]

Again I plead for a word limit on Answerbank.

NO poster should have more than a thousand words per topic.

It would cut the bang-on/boredom factor by huge amounts.