Is There A Creator?

[goodlife]

If convincing evidence of a creator exists, why do many people believe that God had nothing to do with origin of life.

[Khandro]

//If that is the case, why is Jesus Christ or the Son of God not mentioned in Genesis as being created prior to man?//

Because the assertion is baseless

[naomi24]

Khandro, //A bright spark tells me, there is only one thing that comes out of nothing://

Ask that bright spark again - and if he's really bright he'll tell you that that no one can possibly rationally declare that that they know how creation happened.

Corby, Goodlife doesn't believe that Jesus was who the rest of the Christian denominations think he was. He thinks Jesus was the Archangel Michael.

[THECORBYLOON]

Is GOODLIFE not a Jehovah's Witness?

[naomi24]

Yes, he is.

[THECORBYLOON]

From jw.org,
"BIBLE QUESTIONS ANSWERED

Who Is the Archangel Michael?

The Bible’s answer Michael, referred to by some religions as “Saint Michael,” is evidently a name given to Jesus before and after his life on earth. * Michael disputed with Satan after the death of Moses and helped an angel deliver God’s message to the prophet Daniel. (Daniel 10:13, 21; Jude 9) Michael lives up to the meaning of his name​—“Who Is Like God?”​—by defending God’s rulership and fighting God’s enemies.​—Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7."

Regardless of what name or description is used, my question about Genesis and Jesus stands.

[naomi24]

Corby, You're asking a Jehovah's Witness - and you answered that question yourself at 10:52 Sat.

[vulcan42]

goodlife, you have established hope is not reality.\\ It not actually a reality.//
You have also stated that there is proof of what you believe yet you cannot produce any evidence other than what is written in the Bible which is largely based on hope ie not reality. Doesn't evidence have to be tangible?

[Khandro]

vulcan : //Doesn't evidence have to be tangible?//

What evidence do you have that a tree is beautiful ?

[naomi24]

Khandro, what evidence do you have that a supernatural god created that tree?

[goodlife]

Thecorbyloon if you carry on that website you will get all the answers you need. In Genesis 1-6 says '' Let us''. Who is the us?

[naomi24]

The 'Gods', Goodlife. ;o)

[THECORBYLOON]

GOODLIFE, if you believe the "us" to be God and Jesus and that God created Jesus before creating Adam, where in Genesis is that stated?

[goodlife]

Thecorbyloon look at proverbs 8: 22-36.

[Atheist]

Khandro 12:31.
A tree is only beautiful to a 'someone' who finds it beautiful. Its beauty is not an objective fact that can be proved or measured. A mutilated corpse can seem beautiful to some people (e.g. Nero).

[THECORBYLOON]

GOODLIFE, that's Proverbs not Genesis.

If the creation of Adam was worthy of note in Genesis, why was the creation of Jesus not specifically mentioned?

[pixie374]

//If convincing evidence of a creator exists,//

It doesn't, so obviously a hypothetical question. If it did, I wouldn't be an atheist.

[andy-hughes]

Khandro - // vulcan : //Doesn't evidence have to be tangible?//

What evidence do you have that a tree is beautiful ? //

You seem well wide of the mark in understanding what the word 'evidence' actually means, hence your meaningless references to the creation of music, and again, the notion of beauty in a tree.

I have no 'evidence' that a tree is beautiful, because beauty is an abstract concept, and means different things to different people.

But I have evidence that the tree is real - I can see it touch it, smell it, taste it, and if someone chops it down, I can hear it as well.

If you can offer a meaningful response you requests for evidence, and not just something that you think looks appropriately baffling, you might be able to advance your premise further than you have so far.

[vulcan42]

Khandro,\\ What evidence do you have that a tree is beautiful?//
It is evident that the evidence showing how a tree was formed lies not in its beauty.

[Peter Pedant]

god exists, therefor DNA ?

bit of a jump there
esp as there is a diversion froo RNA

[goodlife]

A prime step: If you wanted to be someone’s friend, you certainly would learn his name. Well, what is the name of the Creator, and what does his name reveal about him? (Micah 4:5)