Religious People

[nailit]

If YOUR holy book told you to kill people,
Would you?

Bet you wouldnt?
So why defend a book that does?
Probably because you havnt read it......

[naomi24]

Pixie, we know the reason. That you refuse to believe it doesn’t make it any less the reason.

[nailit]

//Murderers would be more accurate//
I think that would be a fare assessment, lol

[pixie374]

No, you don't. Because nobody does. Obviously you can clarify, but I have only ever seen one "trigger" from you. What are the potential list of reasons you have?

[royfromaus]

Its a fact, reading religion makes you violent,

[pixie374]

Thanks lol :-). You have to be very literal here!

[nailit]

Both the Koran & The Bible are horrible books
And both the Koran & the Bible have not been read by the very people
that proffess to live by them....they just go on what their preacher tells them.
Occasionally, some nutter does decide to read that sh for themselves and the rest is history......

[pixie374]

Exactly... and what makes the occasional nutter do that, when most won't?

[nailit]

The majority of people have no idea of the sick, insane and barbaric laws the the Bible contains. And yet call for Biblical laws to be (re)introduced.
Same with Koranic laws.

[pixie374]

Ah. Is that really a majority? I would suspect more some extremists? And, is it likely to be successful?

[nailit]

Some of the more religious ABers seem to be absent.

[Atheist]

I don't think that most religious ABers are murderers in their heart. I seem to see that most of them regard religion as a good and peaceful influence. Most of them don't take the bible literally. Some do, but even then they have human values which predate religion (in fact, that is where religion got its ideas from).

[naomi24]

Pixie, what method do you think is used to radicalise people?

[pixie374]

Naomi, would you care to answer my list of potential reasons? Or are we ignoring that now?

[naomi24]

There are no ‘potential reasons’. Just a reason.

I’ll ask again. What method do you think is used to radicalise people?

[pixie374]

Have a try, naomi. None of us are dense enough to believe it is that simplistic. And you haven't managed to give the "one" reason yet.

[naomi24]

I’ve given ‘one reason’ countless times, pixie, but for those too dense to have understood it previously I’ll give it again. The Koran.

[andy-hughes]

naomi - As has been pointed out elsewhere, the bible is just as full of instructions to murder people who think differently - if anyone wants to read either tome that way.

I think saying 'The Koran' is too simplistic - billions read them, a tiny percentage see them as instructions to kill people.

Indoctrination is what makes people twist meanings into their own actions, I don't think anyone would argue with that.

[vulcan42]

\\ Indoctrination is what makes people twist meanings into their own actions, I don't think anyone would argue with that.//
No argument here but who's doing the indoctrinating, the Imam or the local Vicar? It comes from within the Islamic faith, and the ultimate responsibility of all atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, lies with that faith.

[naomi24]

AH, //the bible is just as full of instructions to murder people who think differently //

No it isn't. Not at all.

[andy-hughes]

Vulcan - // It comes from within the Islamic faith, and the ultimate responsibility of all atrocities carried out in the name of Islam, lies with that faith. //

It's not possible to aportion responsibility to an abstract concept, which faith is, but it can be fairly and squarely laid at the doors of ectreme preachers.