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Le Chat | 09:16 Tue 15th Jan 2008 | Religion & Spirituality
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"No-one could buy or sell unless he had this mark, that is the beast's name or the number that stands for his name".

I read this in the post by naomi24 and was quite shocked, as in work only the other day, we were talking about how cheques were no longer valid as a method of payment in some shops. I then piped up that maybe one day we'd all have a barcode tatoo on our wrist and just swipe our hand over a unit, which would then remove the money from our account, thereby dispensing with cash/credit cards altogether!
Isn't that spooky? Don't you also think that it may one day become a reality ?
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No, I suggested that they could all be wrong. And then dumbdowners like me might think, "Hey, all ethese clever people say 616, but me and my mates still think 666."
Do we as man depend on the latest research as a blueprint to how civilisation could potentially progress?
I'd just like to add my vote for Foucault's pendulum.

One of my favorite books, yes it does have a deserved reputation for being impeneterable, but it is really worth it
it's available for �5.99 on amazon
I will admit to asking questions in Science and Society when reading Focault's Pendulum. Some bits were really hard to understand but if you get an idea of what they're talking about it does begn to make a sort of sense.
Is it a religious book?
Not quite. Or at least not directly. But religion and peoples beliefs is very much a theme.
Found this. May be rubbish, but I found it interesting...

"When Nero Caesar's name is transliterated into Hebrew, which a first-century Jew would probably have done, he would have gotten Neron Kesar or simply nrwn qsr, since Hebrew has no letters to represent vowels. �It has been documented by archaeological finds that a first century Hebrew spelling of Nero's name provides us with precisely the value of 666. Jastrow's lexicon of the Talmud contains this very spelling.�5 When we take the letters of Nero's name and spell them in Hebrew, we get the following numeric values: n=50, r=200, w=6, n=50, q=100, s=60, r=200 = 666. �Every Jewish reader, of course, saw that the Beast was a symbol of Nero. And both Jews and Christians regarded Nero as also having close affinities with the serpent or dragon. . . . The Apostle writing as a Hebrew, was evidently thinking as a Hebrew. . . . Accordingly, the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the name�that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment that he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as �Neron Kesar.��6

The fragment supports the reading of some Greek New Testament manuscripts that read 616 instead of 666. Why would someone making a copy of the Revelation scroll make such a number change? �Perhaps the change was intentional, seeing that the Greek form Neron Caesar written in Hebrew characters (nrwn qsr) is equivalent to 666, whereas the Latin form Nero Caesar (nrw qsr) is equivalent to 616.� A Latin copyist might have thought that 666 was an error because Nero Caesar did not add up to 666 when transliterated into Latin. He then changed 666 to 616 to conform to the Latin rendering since it was generally accepted that Nero was the Beast. In either case, a Hebrew transliteration nets 666, while a Latin spelling nets 616. Nero was the �man� and either 666 or 616 was his number."
Mmmm ........ the plot thickens!!
Interesting. The bible isn't true but Wikipedia is? I'm not convinced.
has anyone asked the beast what his number is? He may have changed it if he got a new mobile.

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