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Harriet Harman In Trouble !
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The DM may be up to its old smear tricks here but why on earth didn't Harman just admit that the PIE shouldn't have been allowed to be an associate member of the NCCL ? She was given plenty of opportunity on Newsnight but failed to do so. Even the DM is not trying to say that she is a fan of paedophilia but a simple apology would stop the DM's smear campaign dead in its tracks. I am afraid she has shot herself in the foot here.
The DM may be up to its old smear tricks here but why on earth didn't Harman just admit that the PIE shouldn't have been allowed to be an associate member of the NCCL ? She was given plenty of opportunity on Newsnight but failed to do so. Even the DM is not trying to say that she is a fan of paedophilia but a simple apology would stop the DM's smear campaign dead in its tracks. I am afraid she has shot herself in the foot here.
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I thought it a train wreck of an interview on Harriet Harmans part, watching Newsnight last night. I do not think for a moment that HH, Jack Dromey etc were actively involved in promoting PIE or PIEs agenda, and I do think the DM have a political agenda in this. That having been said, Harriet Harman was asked,point blank, about 5 times by the interviewer if she...
08:58 Tue 25th Feb 2014
This certainly doesn't help in the Labour party's bid to get elected next year nor even in the Euro elections in May.I was chatting to a local councillor on the "campaign trail " the other day and he said we need a change of government.I agreed with him that we do but things like this and Ed Balls possibly at the treasury do not give people confidence to vote Labour.
i confess i had not heard of this organisation which was disbanded some years ago, but it's aims seem pretty bad
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Morning emmie !
I agree. I have researched PIE and come up with this ::
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A disgusting organisation, which is no longer around, for which we must be thankful. But Harman is a seasoned performer on the political stage, and I simply can't understand why she just doesn't admit the errors that the NCCL made, admittedly made before she was involved with them. A woman bordering on foolish I fear.
I agree. I have researched PIE and come up with this ::
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A disgusting organisation, which is no longer around, for which we must be thankful. But Harman is a seasoned performer on the political stage, and I simply can't understand why she just doesn't admit the errors that the NCCL made, admittedly made before she was involved with them. A woman bordering on foolish I fear.
"...I simply can't understand why she just doesn't admit the errors that the NCCL made, admittedly made before she was involved with them." [My italics]
Surely there's the answer. It was nothing to do with her. Why should she apologise or admits that mistakes were made before her arrival at the NCCL? Strange that the Daily Mail should kick up a fuss. If, God forbid, I should become a politician, and the DM ran a story along the lines of "jim360 connected with Cambridge Spy Ring"... I'd be inclined to answer the question, "But will you admit that communism was a failed vision and that undermining the system from within was a traitorous act that helped no-one?" with "Oh bugger off, it was nothing to do with me. Go and do some proper journalism."
A bit of an extreme example, perhaps, but there are surely some parallels.
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That said, the Today Programme reports that a spokesman on her behalf has said that she "regrets any connection between [the NCCL and the PIE]" but that such connections were "Immaterial" to her work.
Surely there's the answer. It was nothing to do with her. Why should she apologise or admits that mistakes were made before her arrival at the NCCL? Strange that the Daily Mail should kick up a fuss. If, God forbid, I should become a politician, and the DM ran a story along the lines of "jim360 connected with Cambridge Spy Ring"... I'd be inclined to answer the question, "But will you admit that communism was a failed vision and that undermining the system from within was a traitorous act that helped no-one?" with "Oh bugger off, it was nothing to do with me. Go and do some proper journalism."
A bit of an extreme example, perhaps, but there are surely some parallels.
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That said, the Today Programme reports that a spokesman on her behalf has said that she "regrets any connection between [the NCCL and the PIE]" but that such connections were "Immaterial" to her work.
this makes for disturbing reading, i can't say that what Ms Harman or the others knew, condoned, but it's pretty clear that the group PIE got away with their behaviour for years, its been investigated before, but this latest inquiry looks set to delve a lot deeper.
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Jim...as I understand it, she didn't admit that the NCCL were wrong to admit the PIE as an associated Member, on Newsnight, which I have not watched yet. That is what she was asked to comment on and she steadfastly refused to do so.
She is being discussed here and in the media, because of her failure to handle the Newsnight interview effectively, thus calling into doubt her ability as a politician. She is not being accused of sympathy with the PIE and paedophilia, unless I am be much mistaken. As Emmie has pointed out, the issue of the PIE and NCCL has been in discussion by other media, such as Private Eye for a long time now, and she mucked up her opportunity to end the speculation.
She is being discussed here and in the media, because of her failure to handle the Newsnight interview effectively, thus calling into doubt her ability as a politician. She is not being accused of sympathy with the PIE and paedophilia, unless I am be much mistaken. As Emmie has pointed out, the issue of the PIE and NCCL has been in discussion by other media, such as Private Eye for a long time now, and she mucked up her opportunity to end the speculation.
//"It is ironic that they're accusing me of supporting indecency in relation to children when they themselves are not above producing photographs of very young girls, titivating photographs in bikinis,//
I don’t think she should have sunk to the level of defending herself from trashy sensationalism by emulating it. That’s not what sensible people do.
I don’t think she should have sunk to the level of defending herself from trashy sensationalism by emulating it. That’s not what sensible people do.
its says down the page that the Mail has done it's homework, and the information comes from official documents, as this is the Guardian perhaps to some it might have more credibility
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