What should Rio Ferdinand's punishment be?

[anotheoldgit]

http://www.express.co...yers-if-they-walk-off

/// Meanwhile Rio Ferdinand defied his manager’s wishes by refusing to wear a T-shirt backing the ‘Kick It Out’ campaign. ///

/// But despite United kitman Albert Morgan standing at the tunnel entrance with the T-shirts, Ferdinand refused and warmed up before yesterday’s game against Stoke in his normal United training top.///

/// Ferguson stated: “We are disappointed Rio didn’t wear it.

“Every player in the country should have adhered to the PFA request.

“He has let us down. We will deal with it, don’t worry about
that.” ///

[Gromit]

He should not be punished.

Many others chose to ignore the promotional yesterday as well. It should be a personal matter and it should be up to them if they wear or don't wear the T-Shirt.

Many people believe that the campaign is weak, toothless and merely paying lip service to the problem. And that it was abysmal in the John Terry case (he finally admitted his guilt this week by the way).

So Rio Ferdinand and others take the view of why promote something that you do not believe to be doing a good job. To do so would be hypicritical.

[boxtops]

I agree with Gromit - it was being discussed on the radio this morning, the problem is not as bad as it used to be (they were saying) and this is just a lip service campaign.

[aelmpvw]

punished? why on earth should he be punished?

[Mick-Talbot]

What should Rio Ferdinand's punishment be?

Is there a multiple choice?

Or should I make one up?

erm.......A day packing Youngs 100% sustainable cod fingers ........

[barney4444]

Think Fergie was caught on the hop a bit, hopefully he will read gromit`s thread and realise that we all have a choice about what campaigns etc we show our support for and Rio is entitled to refuse..

[sp1814]

AOG

I don't think he should be punished.

Do you?

[fuschia]

He shouldn't be punished.When the powers that be can give out such lenient 'punishments' they are more or less backing racism.Rio was supporting his brother on this issue which he should be praised for not punished.

[Gromit]

From the BBC Dport website.

// Kick It Out's Jason Euell told BBC Radio 5 live that Ferdinand's actions will send a message to football's governing bodies that not enough is being done to combat racism in the game. //

Just illustrates what a mess the campaign has got into.

[sp1814]

By the way AOG - if Ferdinand was to be punished by the PFA, then couldn't it be argued that they should've punished all the payers who refused to take part in the anti-homophobia campaign a coupe of years ago:

http://www.independen...obia-row-1897128.html

What's your stance on this?

I'm assuming that you believe Ferdinand should be punished somehow (because you asked "What should Rio Ferdinand's punishment be?", rather than "Should Rio Ferdinand be punished for this?")

[MASS1961]

Apparently the F.A, The Football League and The Premier League are contributing a TOTAL sum of £330,000 to the Kick It Out Campaign!

Doesn't that show how seriously they are NOT taking it with the amount of money they have?

Fergie also tends to answer a lot of questions with "Don't worry about that."
As if that's the end of it so don't ask again!

Rio, like him or not, should not be punished for doing something he believed in. Whether Fergie gave him permission or not.

[anotheoldgit]

/// By the way AOG - if Ferdinand was to be punished by the PFA, then couldn't it be argued that they should've punished all the payers who refused to take part in the anti-homophobia campaign a coupe of years ago: ///

/// What's your stance on this? ///

I wondered when you would manage to incorporate a homophobic issue into this, especially when gay footballers refuse to come out of the closet.

No I am about fed up with these PC issues coming into the game, these over-paid Prima Donnas are spoiling the game with their touchy feelings, they should lean to get on with what they are paid for, instead of bothering themselves with what the crowds are shouting.

Where there are mass crowds, things sometimes get heated and one cannot control what they are libel to shout out, for example they could be making insulting remarks against a ginger haired player or some other player who has upset them perhaps for playing dirty for instance, or whoop to put an opposing player off from taking a penalty or aggressively insulting the referee for what they have decided was a wrong decision that he has made.

It's all part of this type of game.

You are never going to get a football crowd to just sit still and clap occasion, just like they do at Wimbledon, and no matter what measures are brought out.

/// I'm assuming that you believe Ferdinand should be punished somehow (because you asked "What should Rio Ferdinand's punishment be?", rather than "Should Rio Ferdinand be punished for this?") ///

It was Ferguson who said, "“He has let us down. We will deal with it, don’t worry about that.” not I.

But yes if he is guilty of refusing to obey his Manager's and Club's request, then yes he should be punished, but how that is a matter for Ferguson.

[Gromit]

AOg

So next time the Islamic fanatics gather in Wootten Basset, as long as there is a mass crowd of them, they can shout as much obscenities as they like?

[sp1814]

AOG

Why not answer the question?

Is it because you agree that Ferdinand should e punished or not.

I've read through your response a couple of times, and I'm not sure what you're getting at.

Should Ferdinand be punished, and if not, why did you ask 'what his punishment should be'.

If you think he doesn't deserve punishment, why did you raise the question?

[Mick-Talbot]

It was Ferguson who said, "“He has let us down. We will deal with it, don’t worry about that.” not I.

But yes if he is guilty of refusing to obey his Manager's and Club's request, then yes he should be punished, * but how that is a matter for Ferguson. *





So why you asking us?

[sp1814]

AOG

Is this one of those occasions where you may have 'posted in haste, and now are free to regret at leisure'.

Do you not think my question about the footballers refusing to back the anti-homophobia campaign is valid here?

Please, please, please try to do me the courtesy of actually answering my question, as I have politely done for you (your post of 14:17 wasn't really an answer, more of a circumvention.

[joeluke]

Ferdinand is as pathetic as his brother Anton, both act like a pair of spoilt kids

"I'm not shaking his hand"

"I'm not wearing that t-shirt"




"I'm going to sit in the corner and sulk"

[Mick-Talbot]

"I'm going to sit in the corner and sulk"


Don't do that, joe ....It's only a question, don't get so upset about it.

[Gromit]

Just out of interest, for I do not knowthe answer, but was John Terry supposed to wear the shirt yesterday, and did he?

[sandyRoe]

AOG, that chap who ran out and gave the goalkeeper a clip around the ear, was he just overheated and couldn't control his actions?