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A computer technician once told me when I queried about these new names coming up like Lenovo and Zoostorm ,that it is the processor that is important.I have always bought well know makes like HP or Sony etc.
Any further advise on this from AB`s.
Any further advise on this from AB`s.
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Lenovo don't really make computers. HP don't really make computers. Sony don't really make computers. All any of them do is to assemble components made by other firms. In practice they early all use either Intel processors or AMD processors, so there's very little to choose between them (although, of course, both Intel and AMD make 'basic' processors for,...
19:58 Sat 21st Feb 2015
Lenovo don't really make computers. HP don't really make computers. Sony don't really make computers. All any of them do is to assemble components made by other firms.
In practice they early all use either Intel processors or AMD processors, so there's very little to choose between them (although, of course, both Intel and AMD make 'basic' processors for, say, office computers and 'super fast' processors for things like gaming - you need to get the right type for your needs but the actual make is largely irrelevant).
So less well-known brands of computers are often as good as the big names. (In particular, the Medion computers which Aldi periodically offer are usually well-reviewed and offer excellent value for money).
However avoiding Lenovo might still be a good idea because they've recently been caught out selling laptops with malware pre-installed!
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In practice they early all use either Intel processors or AMD processors, so there's very little to choose between them (although, of course, both Intel and AMD make 'basic' processors for, say, office computers and 'super fast' processors for things like gaming - you need to get the right type for your needs but the actual make is largely irrelevant).
So less well-known brands of computers are often as good as the big names. (In particular, the Medion computers which Aldi periodically offer are usually well-reviewed and offer excellent value for money).
However avoiding Lenovo might still be a good idea because they've recently been caught out selling laptops with malware pre-installed!
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>>>also told me to never get Celeron processor
Celeron processors are made by Intel, as their 'budget' processors. (They use the 'Pentium' name for their faster processors). They used to have a poor reputation which (as your quote shows) they're finding it hard to shake off but, for most computing needs, they're absolutely fine nowadays:
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Celeron processors are made by Intel, as their 'budget' processors. (They use the 'Pentium' name for their faster processors). They used to have a poor reputation which (as your quote shows) they're finding it hard to shake off but, for most computing needs, they're absolutely fine nowadays:
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>>>am I correct in thinking this?
Er, sort of but not entirely!
'Entry level' computers have 'on board' video. That means that the computer's motherboard handles video output, which reduces the resources available for other things. Further, the video output isn't good enough for gaming or other resource-hungry activities such as professional video-editing.
Computers used for gaming (etc) require separate graphics cards inside them, so that the processing of video signals is handled by the graphics card alone (which, unlike the motherboard, is specifically designed for that task). However, while a basic graphics card might be priced in tens of pounds, a top of the range graphics card (for the ultimate gaming experience) might cost several thousand pounds.
So (depending upon what you intend using a computer for) there's rather more than just the processor to consider!
Er, sort of but not entirely!
'Entry level' computers have 'on board' video. That means that the computer's motherboard handles video output, which reduces the resources available for other things. Further, the video output isn't good enough for gaming or other resource-hungry activities such as professional video-editing.
Computers used for gaming (etc) require separate graphics cards inside them, so that the processing of video signals is handled by the graphics card alone (which, unlike the motherboard, is specifically designed for that task). However, while a basic graphics card might be priced in tens of pounds, a top of the range graphics card (for the ultimate gaming experience) might cost several thousand pounds.
So (depending upon what you intend using a computer for) there's rather more than just the processor to consider!
If you're into gaming, the quality of the graphics card is probably at least as important as that of the processor. If it wasn't, people wouldn't pay these sort of prices or a top of the range graphics card!
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what do you think about this...my grandson has just bought one like it
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I'm no expert on expensive gaming computers. (I recently paid £99 for this excellent reconditioned Windows 7 Professional computer that I'm using to type this - that's more like my price bracket!).
However I know that's a decent processor in the computer you've linked to and I've just checked out some reviews for the graphics card, which are all extremely good. So your grandson seems to have made a good choice.
Would he, by any chance, be the same 'helpful' grandson who has mucked up your laptop's keyboard?
;-)
However I know that's a decent processor in the computer you've linked to and I've just checked out some reviews for the graphics card, which are all extremely good. So your grandson seems to have made a good choice.
Would he, by any chance, be the same 'helpful' grandson who has mucked up your laptop's keyboard?
;-)
Yes he is...I have a proper technician coming to pick up my laptop tomorrow to repair the damage..aw well,one lives and learns.
When a new desktop is bought,I go halves with my son as he goes on it for a few hours when he comes home from work at 8pm....I am interested in my soaps then.
I am at the moment on my netbook which is normally only used when on holiday but as my laptop is poorly,it has come to the rescue.
When a new desktop is bought,I go halves with my son as he goes on it for a few hours when he comes home from work at 8pm....I am interested in my soaps then.
I am at the moment on my netbook which is normally only used when on holiday but as my laptop is poorly,it has come to the rescue.
Whatever you do don't ever buy Lenovo.
Their computers now come installed with Superfish adware that injects ads into your webpage views. They are unrepentant.
It uses what is in effect, a man in the middle attack, diverting your request via an ad server. Morover the injection is active on secure pages where the encryption is done with the adware sites' key.
Worse still they have use the same encryption key on every machine greatly compromising the security.
Their computers now come installed with Superfish adware that injects ads into your webpage views. They are unrepentant.
It uses what is in effect, a man in the middle attack, diverting your request via an ad server. Morover the injection is active on secure pages where the encryption is done with the adware sites' key.
Worse still they have use the same encryption key on every machine greatly compromising the security.
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>>>reputable companies such as HP and Dell where there is a decent support and spares network
Dell? Decent support? They've been repeatedly slated in the technical press for their totally abysmal support!
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I also detest Dell computers because
(a) they tend to sell computers pre-configured with what they think their customers want (when most customers actually seem not to) ; and
(b) they make it almost impossible to physically get inside their machines, so replacing something like a duff DVD drive can be a nightmare.
I've bought quite a few computers at auction but, even if I came across a good specification computer probably going for only twenty quid or so, I'd NEVER bid on a ruddy Dell!
Dell? Decent support? They've been repeatedly slated in the technical press for their totally abysmal support!
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I also detest Dell computers because
(a) they tend to sell computers pre-configured with what they think their customers want (when most customers actually seem not to) ; and
(b) they make it almost impossible to physically get inside their machines, so replacing something like a duff DVD drive can be a nightmare.
I've bought quite a few computers at auction but, even if I came across a good specification computer probably going for only twenty quid or so, I'd NEVER bid on a ruddy Dell!
>>>>Their computers now come installed with Superfish adware
Scaremongering.
They DID ship with this installed but have now stopped doing so.
They have also shipped a program to remove it from your computer.
Lenovo used to make laptops for IBM, and when IBM stopped selling laptops they sold their laptop business to Lenovo so I assume IBM knew what they were doing.
Lenovo are now one of the biggest laptop makers in the world (the now sell more laptops than HP).
Scaremongering.
They DID ship with this installed but have now stopped doing so.
They have also shipped a program to remove it from your computer.
Lenovo used to make laptops for IBM, and when IBM stopped selling laptops they sold their laptop business to Lenovo so I assume IBM knew what they were doing.
Lenovo are now one of the biggest laptop makers in the world (the now sell more laptops than HP).
Self build is the way forward and not as difficult or expensive as you think:-
Intel Pentium G3258 processor (just 2 cores but for £51 and overclockable, perfect for a first build). Also GTX 750ti for the graphics card. Lots of tutorials on the web. Use a combination of amazon and ebay for the parts.
Intel Pentium G3258 processor (just 2 cores but for £51 and overclockable, perfect for a first build). Also GTX 750ti for the graphics card. Lots of tutorials on the web. Use a combination of amazon and ebay for the parts.
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