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Vaccine Passports
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I'm cutting & pasting in a letter from this morning's Telegraph on vaccine passports:
[i] 'It is not that much of a jump to a totalitarian regime'
@Carolyn Bates:
"I never in my wildest dreams could have imagined we are on the brink of this; it is not that much of a jump to a totalitarian regime and mandatory vaccination.
"If we do not rise up against this now, we will only have ourselves to blame. That a Conservative prime minister and Government could even consider what it looks like they will now do, is shocking.
"I have already written to my MP and advised him that unless he makes a stand for his constituents, he can forget about receiving my vote again.
"For forty two years I have voted Conservative and to see what is now going on is terrifying." [i]
Do you think vaccine passports would lead towards a totalitarian regime ?
[i] 'It is not that much of a jump to a totalitarian regime'
@Carolyn Bates:
"I never in my wildest dreams could have imagined we are on the brink of this; it is not that much of a jump to a totalitarian regime and mandatory vaccination.
"If we do not rise up against this now, we will only have ourselves to blame. That a Conservative prime minister and Government could even consider what it looks like they will now do, is shocking.
"I have already written to my MP and advised him that unless he makes a stand for his constituents, he can forget about receiving my vote again.
"For forty two years I have voted Conservative and to see what is now going on is terrifying." [i]
Do you think vaccine passports would lead towards a totalitarian regime ?
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There should be no vaccine passports for anything in the UK. Those that want it have been given it those that choose not to will no doubt (in the main) weighed up the risk to themselves and chosen not to. Discriminating between two groups would create a two tier society and it could also be seen as coercion to have a vaccine, is that even legal?
Of course for travel abroad it is a different matter and depends on the views of the country travelling to and their rules.
Of course for travel abroad it is a different matter and depends on the views of the country travelling to and their rules.
Vaccines against cholera and yellow fever among others have been a requirement for safe travel to some countries for many years. Vaccines for children to enter school have also been a requirement. I am very happy to present a Covid vaccine certificate and would like to know the person sitting next to me is also vaccinated. Air travel has contributed to the spread of Covid and if the airlines or country I am visiting require this and I want to trave so be it
I think this lady sounds a bit hysterical. Everybody in Germany has a passbook in which all vaccines are registered; you can see if you are up to date with everything, most recently the two covid jabs were added. I took it with me when I had to go over into France last month in case it was needed (it wasn't). I don't feel as if I'm living in a 'totalitarian regime'. What's the problem?
Totally agree with her and I too have written to my MP and know others who have done so as well. Not opposed to them for travelling abroad, it's the ones they are talking about for entry to a pub or restaurant I am opposed to. The day that happens, if it does, is the day I stop going to pubs and restaurants and entertain at home. Some pubs, I know, will refuse to take part and good for them !
// Who told you that?
And what exactly qualifies as "a valid medical exemption"?
very very few - anaphylactic response to the first dose I think
yellow card system there are 28 000 cards filled out - I felt woozy-woo after my shot x 28000
and NONE of those will qualify - oh OK had a cerebral venous thrombosis after my first sbot is No 2
And what exactly qualifies as "a valid medical exemption"?
very very few - anaphylactic response to the first dose I think
yellow card system there are 28 000 cards filled out - I felt woozy-woo after my shot x 28000
and NONE of those will qualify - oh OK had a cerebral venous thrombosis after my first sbot is No 2
I would accept other countries' demands for a vaccine passport - their country, their laws. I would not and never will, accept compulsory vaccination in order to live normally in the UK. I shall also be writing to my M.P..
Yes, the introduction of these would provide the thin end of the wedge to open the possibility of a totalitarian regime. Once the technology has been established for such control it is easy to see how it can be extended.
Sounds stupid but try this scenario: unwanted teenage pregnancies are a bad thing; they harm the girls concerned by blighting their chances and they harm society with the expense and likelihood that they will become problem families causing harm to society and perpetuating deprivation etc., etc.. To stop this, all girls from the age of 13 must have regular contraceptive injections in order to access education (which is a legal requirement).
I know this sounds stupid - but is it such a big step? You can easily think of other extrapolations.
Yes, the introduction of these would provide the thin end of the wedge to open the possibility of a totalitarian regime. Once the technology has been established for such control it is easy to see how it can be extended.
Sounds stupid but try this scenario: unwanted teenage pregnancies are a bad thing; they harm the girls concerned by blighting their chances and they harm society with the expense and likelihood that they will become problem families causing harm to society and perpetuating deprivation etc., etc.. To stop this, all girls from the age of 13 must have regular contraceptive injections in order to access education (which is a legal requirement).
I know this sounds stupid - but is it such a big step? You can easily think of other extrapolations.
Thanks for the answer PP... the ad hominem man seldom justifies anything.( mmm TTT )
Yes the Yellow Card Sham - "The Yellow Card scheme is a mechanism by which anybody can voluntarily report any suspected adverse reactions or side effects to the vaccine" - garble.gov.uk
is another 'veneer' and distraction like the 'democracy' scam.
see page 10 of this officialese:
https:/
Yes the Yellow Card Sham - "The Yellow Card scheme is a mechanism by which anybody can voluntarily report any suspected adverse reactions or side effects to the vaccine" - garble.gov.uk
is another 'veneer' and distraction like the 'democracy' scam.
see page 10 of this officialese:
https:/
