When Will There Be Finally Self Driving Cars?

[Lombax]

Do you think it will happen in this decade? Or that it will take far longer?

[JimF]

https://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/News/Question1717896.html

[Hopkirk]

I don't believe their will ever be fully self driving cars on the roads.

They will get to 99%of solving the problems, but the final 1% will prove impossible.

[naomi24]

Never I hope.

[bhg481]

Well, we're getting there. If you compare driving to an aircraft dogfight there's an interesting article here:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1329248/ai-airforce-artificial-intelligence-fighter-pilot-beats-human-virtual-dogfight-darpa

[CrapAtCryptics]

We`ve all seen the scenarios that can develop out on the road and the sometimes unusual but safe solutions we adapt to to get through them but can code ever be subtle and adaptive to deal with the needs of every road user even if they are sober, drug free or not suffering from an excess of testosterone.

[naomi24]

^No, I don't think it can. Given a situation where there is no option other than to crash into something, for example a child or a parked car, I don't believe a computer can make a rational choice.

[bhg481]

We do not need perfection; all we need is for computers to be safer drivers than humans. They won't be drunk, drugged, speeding, playing with a smart phone, daydreaming, getting uptight with an idiot cutting them up etc. Of course there will be situations where they get it wrong but less often than humans.

[naomi24]

I'd rather trust me.

[Theland]

They would be ha handy in fog?

[bhg481]

Theland - yes, they don't just use the visible spectrum. My 12 year old Volvo uses radar for its adaptive cruise control so can see where I can't. It doesn't get dazzled by badly-adjusted lights either.

[AZardoz]

Yes, we desperately need them because that would remove the incompetents.
Not to mention speeding, road rage, those busy with their mobiles, having lunch, smoking, etc, etc. The results are obvious daily.


//I'd rather trust me. //
Well, I wouldn't, nor should anyone else.
How many driving courses have you taken ?

[AZardoz]

Somehow the most important clip got clipped.

That is the reason they are needed.

[Hopkirk]

How will they steer when the road markings are covered in snow?

I drive lorries with much of this technology fitted. Often the advanced emergency braking is switched off automatically because of snow or debris on the sensors. It often tells me I am out of lane because it mistakes road repairs for lane markings.

What will it do confronted with a large puddle ahead?

[SparklyKid]

//I'd rather trust me. //
Well, I wouldn't, nor should anyone else.
How many driving courses have you taken ?


After driving for 59 years I would only trust myself.

What good are driving courses, after 59 years on the roads I know all I need to know.

My BIL was a driving instructor for 50 years and was the worst driver I have ever known.

As the old saying goes, those that can do, those that can't teach.

[Hymie]

As I see it, the biggest problem with authorities accepting self-driving vehicles is the validation of the software.

There are accepted software standards that are used for safety critical applications such as the control of aircraft and other situations where the incorrect operation could cause loss of life/injury or significant damage. But vehicle self-driving software uses self-learning artificial intelligence principles and so the normal software standards cannot be applied.

Therefore acceptance will ultimately be based on proven reliability in real world situations. Already fully autonomous vehicles are operating on our roads – once they are shown to be many times better than humans at controlling vehicles they will be the norm.

As I have posted before on this site – I believe that before this century is out, most jurisdictions around the world will not permit humans to have control of vehicles on the roads (for obvious reasons).

[ToraToraTora]

there will never be autonomous vehicles.

[Canary42]

Far longer

[ToraToraTora]

here is one of the answers I gave on the thread mentioned above:
"when I can get in my car, sit in the back seat, get it to drive me around the pubs and home again with me Rat Faced on the back seat eating a kebab and any death and destruction it causes is not my fault, then we can have self driving cars, i.e. never! If I have to be there, alert, responsible ready to drive, what's the point? I'd rather drive it myself. "

[Hymie]

See this Wikipedia article on something already in existence that TTT claims will never be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-driving_car

[ToraToraTora]

yes they can do it technically with some very restricted conditions, even then they cause accidents. I mean it will never be allowed on the road en masse.