Use Of Youtube Clips For Education / Entertainment

[andy-hughes]

I am due to present a series of talks on some cruise ships, and I will be using YouTube clips as part of a PowerPoint presentation.

Each clip will be around twenty seconds of a pop video which will be sourced from the Internet.

I am sure I have read somewhere that short clips like this used for education and entertainment and sourced from the public domain, do not require permission for use, and do not contravene any Copyright laws.

Can anyone confirm if I am on safe ground, or do I need formal legal advice and confirmation?

[Buenchico]

The 'education' exceptions to copyright law only apply to non-commercial education (e.g. in schools or colleges). They don't apply to commercial education or training events. See 'Illustration for instruction' on page 54 of the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988 here: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/957583/Copyright-designs-and-patents-act-1988.pdf

'Stream ripping' from YouTube, for any purpose at all, is unlawful unless the material is free of copyright or you have the permission of the copyright holder.

I very much doubt that anyone would even consider taking either you or the cruise company to court for breach of copyright but the 'official' answer to your question is that what you're proposing to do does fall foul of copyright legislation.

[Buenchico]

Second thoughts though:

I answered your question with regard to your suggestion that the 'education' exemption within copyright legislation might help you. As far as that is concerned, my answer still stands: it doesn't.

However, depending upon exactly how you intend to use the short clips that you refer to, the 'criticism or review' section of the legislation might come into play. See 'Criticism, review, quotation and news reporting' on page 49 of my link above.

[Buenchico]

As an example: If you were to play a 20-second clip of Oasis (which is probably about as much as most people could take anyway) and then followed it with a 20-second clip from the Beatles, in order to illustrate either 'influence' or simply downright plagiarism, that would almost certainly fall into the category of 'fair dealing' in respect of 'criticism or review'.

[andy-hughes]

Thanks Chris - as always, your genius saves the day.

[Canary42]

/// Chris - as always, your genius saves the day. ///

Can I use that quote without infringing copyright laws ;-)

[andy-hughes]

Canary - // Can I use that quote without infringing copyright laws ;-) //

Of course you can - but standard royalty rates apply!!!

[Zacs-Master]

I think it will be a while before cruise ships are sailing again. You've plenty of time to prepare, Andy.

[andy-hughes]

Not too much Zacs, my employer is possibly lining me up for a UK cruise in September - Southampton to Liverpool.

If chosen, I have to write and rehearse six forty-minute talks, so it's going to be hard work!

[Zacs-Master]

40 mins is a long time to talk. Good luck.

[aelmpvw]

^ my doris is just warming up

[Zacs-Master]

LOL, OK.....for a bloke

[andy-hughes]

Zacs - // 40 mins is a long time to talk. Good luck. //

If you knew me personally, you'd know that it's no problem for me at all!!

The really hard part is timing it - you have to finish on forty minutes exactly because other things on the ship start at specific times, and people will just start walking out if you finish late.

[Zacs-Master]

Sounds like you're a shoe-in then. iPad with a big count-down clock stage left.

[andy-hughes]

Zacs - // Sounds like you're a shoe-in then. iPad with a big count-down clock stage left. //

Thanks!! I'll let you know.

I am keen and hopeful, but there is no way of knowing what my employers are looking for specifically, and they have access to a vast pool of diverse and interesting speakers, so I will be really chuffed if I do get the gig.