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“What’s happening” I don’t hear anyone cry - and the BBC for one appears to have stopped it’s live reporting for now - but I’ll tell you anyway :-)
In E Ukraine the stalemate largely persists with the last two major towns in Luhansk still holding out. Russians attempt to advance on them from south - Popasna - and north - Izium. There’s a lot of “come and go” with villages swapping sides.
Various Ukrainian counteroffensives continue west of Izium (Kharkiv region) and in western Donetsk region.
Ukraine military appears to have taken out a number of large ammunition warehouses around Donetsk city.
Kharkiv comes under sustained attack from missiles fired from across the border and its thought the Russians might try to push back as close to the city as possible to recommence artillery barrages even if taking the city itself is plainly beyond them.
To the south Ukrainian forces continue to advance slowly in Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions. Partisans operate in occupied Kherson city and Melitopol in particular; assassinating local collaborating officials and Russians.
At sea Ukraine has begun deploying harpoon missiles against Russian military vessels, oil rigs, and Snake Island in the W Black Sea has been attacked causing serious damage and losses to the Russian base there.
Meanwhile this short report via RFE gives a flavour of life on the front line
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In E Ukraine the stalemate largely persists with the last two major towns in Luhansk still holding out. Russians attempt to advance on them from south - Popasna - and north - Izium. There’s a lot of “come and go” with villages swapping sides.
Various Ukrainian counteroffensives continue west of Izium (Kharkiv region) and in western Donetsk region.
Ukraine military appears to have taken out a number of large ammunition warehouses around Donetsk city.
Kharkiv comes under sustained attack from missiles fired from across the border and its thought the Russians might try to push back as close to the city as possible to recommence artillery barrages even if taking the city itself is plainly beyond them.
To the south Ukrainian forces continue to advance slowly in Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions. Partisans operate in occupied Kherson city and Melitopol in particular; assassinating local collaborating officials and Russians.
At sea Ukraine has begun deploying harpoon missiles against Russian military vessels, oil rigs, and Snake Island in the W Black Sea has been attacked causing serious damage and losses to the Russian base there.
Meanwhile this short report via RFE gives a flavour of life on the front line
https:/
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There is plenty of news: just less in real time.
Much of the real time stuff is v sensitive - they are trying to restrict information about Kherson for example for military security reasons - and much therefore necessarily unconfirmed, which means the BBC etc don't touch it for several days, by which time ...
Much of the real time stuff is v sensitive - they are trying to restrict information about Kherson for example for military security reasons - and much therefore necessarily unconfirmed, which means the BBC etc don't touch it for several days, by which time ...
I don't know what was 'expected' or by whom - but I do know what was hoped for and I do think there's now an air of despondency. I feel despondent about it at least. I still can hardly believe this is happening in 21dt century Europe - and confess I can't stand to finish watching the news bulletins at times. I have to switch it off.
Don't confuse boredom with despondency.
It's human nature to react to a big news story and then gradually to lose interest as time goes by: that applies both to the media and the general public. At the start it was "oh look: plucky Ukraine hasn't been conquered in three days like we thought! Hurrah!"
Then "oh fab! Russia hasn't taken Kyiv -or Kharkiv"
But they were never going to go away. That's the hard, dull and ever more brutal bit. And it goes on regardless of what the public abroad thinks of it.
It's human nature to react to a big news story and then gradually to lose interest as time goes by: that applies both to the media and the general public. At the start it was "oh look: plucky Ukraine hasn't been conquered in three days like we thought! Hurrah!"
Then "oh fab! Russia hasn't taken Kyiv -or Kharkiv"
But they were never going to go away. That's the hard, dull and ever more brutal bit. And it goes on regardless of what the public abroad thinks of it.
Ich, Channel 4 News have regular (almost nightly) updates on what's happening in Ukraine. Last night's report said that Ukrainian soldiers had been pushed back in Sievierodnetsk, taking refuge in a chemical plant, drawing comparisons with the steel plant in Mariupol. The report also said that a large number of civilians were also in the plant.
0615 Radio 4 - "Snake island - as you know was involved in the sinking of the German vessel.." oops Russian I mean
I reproved the silly careless fellow by email ( and suggested he would be at home on AB)
and they ran a russian side of Zaporhizna
zapping it with heavy artillery and saying in Russian
"this, BBC is the smell of Victory and Peace, tovarich"
thx to col kilgore, apocalypse now
I reproved the silly careless fellow by email ( and suggested he would be at home on AB)
and they ran a russian side of Zaporhizna
zapping it with heavy artillery and saying in Russian
"this, BBC is the smell of Victory and Peace, tovarich"
thx to col kilgore, apocalypse now
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