As Scarrott says there are some good ones on eBay, especially Ministry Of Sound 20Gb(roughly 5,000 tracks) Jukebox for �70(I paid �200 for mine in Argos!). I've had it nearly 2 years and it has done me proud so I can vouch for the quality of them. Why pay something like �220 for a 4Gb iPod, which have allegedly been plagued with problems?