Where Are They All Going To Live When They Arrive In A Few Days?

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A pregnant Romanian woman said: ‘I have read on this website I can get £190 a week from the British government from the 25th week of pregnancy.
Just need somebody to help me with the forms!

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[emmie]

who knows, perhaps some will be heading for other destinations than UK,

[Ric.ror]

Out of interest if I was to travel to Germany tomorrow what benefit would I be able to claim?

[emmie]

you can get them, but it doesn't seem that easy, i have no idea of the true figure on who claims what in Germany, but i found this so might be of interest


http://www.thelocal.de/20131009/52315

[sandyRoe]

"Some one-way tickets are selling for up to £3,000 each..." If you see one piece in an article that's hard to believe does it make you doubt the veracity of the rest?

[emmie]

actually no it doesn't, we know from people who have arrived from other countries they can pay a premium to the trafficker to get here, often thousands, because once here they can either disappear into the system, or end up working for the traffickers, in various businesses, not least prostitution, crime. Those that come here legitimately may well pay thousands because if there is promise of work then that is the incentive, if it's much more than they can earn in Romania, where wages are low, then cobble the money together somehow and come. Low wages are the driver for those wishing to leave this poor countries, whilst we pick up the tab, by having more people that we cannot deny entry

[emmie]

people still mistake Roma from Romanian.... perhaps they can live in Hyde Park, with some of their compatriots, or are those people going to move out when they become eligible for benefits. This freedom of movement of people's seem to have benefited some but not others. If they find work well good for them, however as the OP says where are they going to live.

[emmie]

the complexity is truly mind boggling, who can access what

http://www.housing-rights.info/02_8_Bulgarians_Romanians.php

[Gromit]

Next door to you?

[emmie]

i hope not. I am fed up with the bstards we already have.

[emmie]

or you perhaps, would you mind, i expect not.

[FredPuli43]

It's all right. They can take the place of all those Poles who arrived and have since gone home.

[Gromit]

Emmie,

I have Poles as neighbours. Better people than a lot of the native Brits near me.

[emmie]

many haven't gone home, they have settled in for the duration.
unless you have data to suggest otherwise.

[emmie]

sure they are, you love Brits don't you....

[emmie]

Polish migration to the United Kingdom describes the temporary or permanent settlement of the Poles to the United Kingdom (UK). Most Polish migrants arrived in UK after the 2004 enlargement of the European Union.[2] At the time of the 2011 Census, 521,000 Polish-born people reported being resident in the UK,[3] and there is a wider population of British Poles including the descendants of over 200,000 immigrants who settled in the UK after World War II.[4]
from wiki,

Poles are the third largest foreign born community after Irish and Indian born people in Britain[5] and the Polish language is the second most spoken language in England and the third most spoken language in Britain after English and Welsh, with 1% of Britain's population speaking Polish.[6][7] Since 2004 there is an increasing number of Polish- British citizens in the UK.

[ichkeria]

I'm afraid all of this makes me ashamed to be British. There was a representative from the press on the radio this morning pathetically trying to justify the behaviour of some newspapers by claiming that they are 'just a bit raucous' and effectively saying that they were reflecting the views of the readers. Which no doubt is true to an extent, but it doesn't answer the general charge of 'bordering on racism' which as far as I am concerned is a polite way of putting it

[Zacs-Master]

I think Fred was being ironic.

[emmie]

very likely, but some seem to think it's true,
they have stayed, if you live in a broccoli poor country and have the ability to leave because the ruling has been made to say you can now reside anywhere you choose, work where you choose, or if stuck and become unemployed can claim benefits. It would seem it rather a lot harder to claim benefits in some other EU countries, and if the Poles, Romanians, Bulgarians are leaving, then we are hardly likely to reciprocate and go there, as living standards, wages are much lower. So this freedom of movement does seem to benefit some countries and not others.

[Gromit]

Emmie,
The financial crash saw immigration from Poland virtually stop and shortly after, many returning to their homeland as their British jobs went.

But since 2011, immigration from Poland has started to rise annually again, due to the Coalition's open door immigration policy.

[emmie]

you said yourself they cannot do anything about that matter, this open door policy, so why repeat it.