Britains Worst Prison

[nailit]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5377701/inside-britains-worst-prison-rife-with-zombie-drug-spice-and-plagued-by-rats-and-cockroaches/

I spent 6 weeks in this prison 20 years ago, at the end of an 8 month sentence. It felt like 6 years at the time. It was just as bad (perhaps even worse) then.
Just curious as to how some people...here and elsewhere... continually see prison as a holiday camp? Not argueing about the rights and wrongs of prisoners or their conditions, just curious as to how people can still equate going to jail with a holiday in Butlins?

[jno]

ignorance and prejudice maybe?

[nailit]

Yep, that's definitely one reason jno.

[New Judge]

Have you ever been to Butlins, nailit? :-)

[nailit]

Many years ago NJ. I can see ur point ;-)

[mikey4444]

Its quite clearly not anything like a holiday Nailit, but those that think so are just being ignorant. The world is full of ignorant people.

The state of some of our prisons is disgraceful. I heard the person in charge of Liverpool being interviewed on the radio this morning, and the reason why this is so is complicated. But money is a major factor.

[-Talbot-]

Holiday camp or not ... it's not something I lose sleep over.

If you can't do the ti ...............................you know the rest.

[nailit]

Mikey, having had first hand experience of this jail (not the Daily Mail hype) I can say that I honestly understand the high suicide rates in prison. In Liverpool (Walton) the screws were bullies to a man.
Prisons are full of the bad, the mad and the sad...
Ive said before that there are people in the nick that need treatment, not punishment.

[mikey4444]

Agree 100%, but you won't convince the ignorant of that fact. The know-alls.

[Jackdaw33]

Why has the governor not been sacked and someone more competent put in his place?

[nailit]

JD, I can say, first hand, this is not an isolated incident. Regardless of the governor, this is what 21 century prisons are like. Far from the 'Butlins' of media myth.

[Mamyalynne]

I have never subscribed to the 'Holiday Camp' theory - I can understand why some people get cross at documentaries about the newer well kitted out establishments as they themselves are struggling to pay a heating bill etc - but what price freedom?

With the older prisons that have been left to rot it becomes a vicious circle, one broken window becomes a row of them and damage follows damage.

At the very least an attempt to smarten things up using the captive workforce they have there would be a start and may encourage inmates to take care of better surroundings.

I also agree there are many who should not be incarcerated and of course some who should be but aren't.

[Togo]

Things are on the turn, don't worry. £Squillions have just been spent on a brand spanking new state of the art nick in Wrexham. Berwyn I think. The prisoners love it, but the screws are all having nervous breakdowns and leaving. Compo claims are already in the pipeline.

[nailit]

Got a link Togo??

[Mamyalynne]

http://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/culture-fear-among-wrexham-super-14171486

[nailit]

Well thought out post Mamya...

[Mamyalynne]

Thank you, for the most part of my life I never had cause to give such things much thought, but a few years ago circumstances changed all that.

Now I try harder to understand.

[Togo]

Haha Nails.... just thought I would smuggle a bit of "spice" into your thread. :))

[Mamyalynne]

Full body search next visit then, hee hee.

[nailit]

A bit of spice without a link is a bit pointless tho Togo ;-)

[Togo]

Drone.