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The Mail Says We Should Give Sanctuary To Calais Camps Children, Do You Agree?
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/// Mr Cameron should consider that of all the countries in the Europe, Britain has the longest established tradition of offering sanctuary to refugees from war and oppression. ///
Yes but these have been fellow Europeans, and why have we been able to that? It is the fact that we have in the past fought and died to defend our lands, so as to keep our country free from invasion.
Why should we give up all this now?
/// Mr Cameron should consider that of all the countries in the Europe, Britain has the longest established tradition of offering sanctuary to refugees from war and oppression. ///
Yes but these have been fellow Europeans, and why have we been able to that? It is the fact that we have in the past fought and died to defend our lands, so as to keep our country free from invasion.
Why should we give up all this now?
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/// yeah like rent boys in piccadilly circus ( aka the meat rack ) are safe coz they are in London and you know this because you visited skeggy once ? ///
So you are prepared to add to those rent boys in Piccadilly Circus plus a few pickpockets in the East End, or even a few rapists amongst the older ones are you?
/// yeah like rent boys in piccadilly circus ( aka the meat rack ) are safe coz they are in London and you know this because you visited skeggy once ? ///
So you are prepared to add to those rent boys in Piccadilly Circus plus a few pickpockets in the East End, or even a few rapists amongst the older ones are you?
Why aren't the so called 'humanitarians' criticising France, for housing these children in camps?
Since these children have chosen to come to their country, isn't it their responsibility to house these children with French foster parents?
There would be an outcry if the UK were to take them in, only to also house them in camps.
Since these children have chosen to come to their country, isn't it their responsibility to house these children with French foster parents?
There would be an outcry if the UK were to take them in, only to also house them in camps.
“….thousands of unaccompanied child refugees from war zones, some just six years old or even younger, will be sleeping in appalling squalor on the streets or in the makeshift camps of supposedly prosperous and civilised Europe.”
Precisely. “…prosperous and civilised Europe”. It is our European partners who have chosen to treat these children in this way. Leaving aside the initially contentious actions of their parents, these children are the responsibility of the country where they currently are. They are not being rescued from war ravaged areas. They are currently in civilised countries. If those countries choose to treat the children appallingly that is a stain on their characters and I accept does nothing to help the children. But if the UK takes them in what does that say to our neighbours – “Ttreat the kids as badly as you wish. We’ll take them off your hands if you treat them badly enough.”
“…it would be very difficult to refuse them help.”
Then why aren’t the French offering them help?”
Your article about “Kindertransport” is not appropriate, ellipsis. These children are in France, not in a part of Europe about to be overrun by the Nazi killing machine and they are not of a faith that the French are avowed to eradicate from the face of the earth.
“…every child in danger, in poverty or at risk is my problem”
Well it’s not mine, so pop over to France and look after a few, gness. Just don’t bring them back here. And when you’ve fed, clothed and housed them be prepared for their extended family to come knocking on your door.
“These children are of the Muslim faith and it would be unfair for them not to be brought up by other Muslims.”
Cannot agree, AOG. They would be much better off if their Muslim faith was eased out of them before they became adults. Then could perhaps conduct their lives in a sensible fashion without being subject to the rigours of a most oppressive religion. There’s certainly no chance of that happening in the UK.
The EU should stop worrying about light bulbs and vacuum cleaners and ensure that these children are treated properly in the member nations where they find themselves. I disagree 100% with the Daily Mail.
Precisely. “…prosperous and civilised Europe”. It is our European partners who have chosen to treat these children in this way. Leaving aside the initially contentious actions of their parents, these children are the responsibility of the country where they currently are. They are not being rescued from war ravaged areas. They are currently in civilised countries. If those countries choose to treat the children appallingly that is a stain on their characters and I accept does nothing to help the children. But if the UK takes them in what does that say to our neighbours – “Ttreat the kids as badly as you wish. We’ll take them off your hands if you treat them badly enough.”
“…it would be very difficult to refuse them help.”
Then why aren’t the French offering them help?”
Your article about “Kindertransport” is not appropriate, ellipsis. These children are in France, not in a part of Europe about to be overrun by the Nazi killing machine and they are not of a faith that the French are avowed to eradicate from the face of the earth.
“…every child in danger, in poverty or at risk is my problem”
Well it’s not mine, so pop over to France and look after a few, gness. Just don’t bring them back here. And when you’ve fed, clothed and housed them be prepared for their extended family to come knocking on your door.
“These children are of the Muslim faith and it would be unfair for them not to be brought up by other Muslims.”
Cannot agree, AOG. They would be much better off if their Muslim faith was eased out of them before they became adults. Then could perhaps conduct their lives in a sensible fashion without being subject to the rigours of a most oppressive religion. There’s certainly no chance of that happening in the UK.
The EU should stop worrying about light bulbs and vacuum cleaners and ensure that these children are treated properly in the member nations where they find themselves. I disagree 100% with the Daily Mail.
> Ellipsis, and what about when the next group arrive in France .. and the next .. and the next? Where does it end?
The DM suggested the following ...
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As for the danger of encouraging more refugees to send their children on the perilous journey alone, the Mail sees why Mr Cameron is worried. But with the right safeguards in place, and rigorously adhered to, it’s a danger that can and must be surmounted.
First, it is essential that any offer of asylum to unaccompanied children in the Channel coast camps, many of whom have relatives in Britain, must be a one-off amnesty. A limit must be set on numbers, and stuck to.
To avoid cruelly raising false hopes, it must also be spelt out with absolute clarity that the offer is restricted to children who have already journeyed across Europe, and it will not be repeated or kept open.
Clearly, strict checks must also be made to establish that those granted asylum are genuine refugees from war zones, and really the age they claim to be. Meanwhile, the ultimate aim — again, to be spelt out clearly — must be to return the great majority to their home countries.
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The DM suggested the following ...
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As for the danger of encouraging more refugees to send their children on the perilous journey alone, the Mail sees why Mr Cameron is worried. But with the right safeguards in place, and rigorously adhered to, it’s a danger that can and must be surmounted.
First, it is essential that any offer of asylum to unaccompanied children in the Channel coast camps, many of whom have relatives in Britain, must be a one-off amnesty. A limit must be set on numbers, and stuck to.
To avoid cruelly raising false hopes, it must also be spelt out with absolute clarity that the offer is restricted to children who have already journeyed across Europe, and it will not be repeated or kept open.
Clearly, strict checks must also be made to establish that those granted asylum are genuine refugees from war zones, and really the age they claim to be. Meanwhile, the ultimate aim — again, to be spelt out clearly — must be to return the great majority to their home countries.
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