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the remainers are having hard cheese and sour grapes for dessert tonight...
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Very good to see you back, Baz. Somebody told me you had been banned which infuriated me. (for obvious reasons)
Re the question. Some of the fascist whingers on here, and elsewhere, just don't 'get' democracy. They 'bang on' about it all the time but only respect it if it chimes with their own juvenile ideology.
Re the question. Some of the fascist whingers on here, and elsewhere, just don't 'get' democracy. They 'bang on' about it all the time but only respect it if it chimes with their own juvenile ideology.
it seems to be the brexiters who are executing U-turns.
Daniel Hannan says “Frankly, if people watching think that they have voted and there is now going to be zero immigration from the EU, they are going to be disappointed.”
Boris says no hurry, no hurry to leave.
Farage says Leave's pledge to spend £350 million on the NHS was nonsense.
Fancy that! Is this what you guys really voted for?
Daniel Hannan says “Frankly, if people watching think that they have voted and there is now going to be zero immigration from the EU, they are going to be disappointed.”
Boris says no hurry, no hurry to leave.
Farage says Leave's pledge to spend £350 million on the NHS was nonsense.
Fancy that! Is this what you guys really voted for?
"Hannan had said the UK should stay within the “common market” - the EU trading group - but Davis reminded him that meant Britain would still have to allow in unlimited numbers of European workers."
Err no it doesn't. No negotiations on that has even started yet and if that demand was part of the entry conditions then the EU can go lose single market trade with us, and see how their industries like that. It seems that Davis believes that the EU never learns... oh hang on a minute ....
"But an exasperated Davis hit back, saying: Why didn’t you say this in the campaign? Why didn’t you say in the campaign that you were wanting a scheme where we have free movement of labour?"
But Davies seems very confused. It is he (see first quote above) that claimed there would be free movement of EU citizens. Now he seems to suggest that from that error Hannan must want free movement. It seems to me that Davies is having problems thinking it through clearly.
"It comes after Nigel Farage yesterday admitted it was a “mistake” of the official Vote Leave campaign to claim that the £350m contribution paid by Britain to the EU could be re-invested in the NHS after Brexit."
I know of no one who made any such claim, but simply that our agreed subscription was £350M and if we stopped paying to the EU and allocated it ourselves we could add to the NHS budget. But of course any future government is at liberty to add an additional £350M to the NHS budget if they wished. But I'm unsure we can afford that. For sure we no longer will pay the subscription but there are other grants we need to consider continuing with. Plus we aren't going to get any discount back since we would be no longer paying a subscription. I think someone is confused.
I'll go look at the video now.
Err no it doesn't. No negotiations on that has even started yet and if that demand was part of the entry conditions then the EU can go lose single market trade with us, and see how their industries like that. It seems that Davis believes that the EU never learns... oh hang on a minute ....
"But an exasperated Davis hit back, saying: Why didn’t you say this in the campaign? Why didn’t you say in the campaign that you were wanting a scheme where we have free movement of labour?"
But Davies seems very confused. It is he (see first quote above) that claimed there would be free movement of EU citizens. Now he seems to suggest that from that error Hannan must want free movement. It seems to me that Davies is having problems thinking it through clearly.
"It comes after Nigel Farage yesterday admitted it was a “mistake” of the official Vote Leave campaign to claim that the £350m contribution paid by Britain to the EU could be re-invested in the NHS after Brexit."
I know of no one who made any such claim, but simply that our agreed subscription was £350M and if we stopped paying to the EU and allocated it ourselves we could add to the NHS budget. But of course any future government is at liberty to add an additional £350M to the NHS budget if they wished. But I'm unsure we can afford that. For sure we no longer will pay the subscription but there are other grants we need to consider continuing with. Plus we aren't going to get any discount back since we would be no longer paying a subscription. I think someone is confused.
I'll go look at the video now.
Having watched the video once, I don't think it is clear what they are on about. That one would have to play it umpteen times and analyse it to find out; and I'm not doing that.
I stick by what I said above. Net immigration isn't going to be zero, that isn't practical in the short nor the medium term; and I agree there have been no numbers given to state what the new level will be. These are things that have to be discovered as one goes and a new system settles down. But freedom to just walk in without a passport and/or visa as appropriate is certainly not something that is acceptable (negotiated common travel areas excepted).
I stick by what I said above. Net immigration isn't going to be zero, that isn't practical in the short nor the medium term; and I agree there have been no numbers given to state what the new level will be. These are things that have to be discovered as one goes and a new system settles down. But freedom to just walk in without a passport and/or visa as appropriate is certainly not something that is acceptable (negotiated common travel areas excepted).
"Very good to see you back, Baz. Somebody told me you had been banned which infuriated me. (for obvious reasons) "
thanks Svejk...seems i was...took me two weeks until I realised...bothered not though, was getting extremely bored with the two or three pseudo intellectuals that seem to think they run this board and wreck and derail most posts....
Anyway onto more important things !...
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The
FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £
rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a
weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best
performance in 4 months.
President Obama decided
we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and
that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The
French President confirmed the Le Touquet
agreement would stay in place.
The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would
be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be
a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports
it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI,
vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum
campaign, stated British business was resilient and
would adapt.
Several countries outside the EU stated
they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK
immediately.
Property prices to drop 18% yesterday that changed to 5%...
If this was the predicted apocalypse,
well, it was a very British one. It was all over by
teatime.
Not a bad first day of freedom.
thanks Svejk...seems i was...took me two weeks until I realised...bothered not though, was getting extremely bored with the two or three pseudo intellectuals that seem to think they run this board and wreck and derail most posts....
Anyway onto more important things !...
A Prime Minister resigned. The £ plummeted. The
FTSE 100 lost significant ground. But then the £
rallied past February levels, and the FTSE closed on a
weekly high: 2.4% up on last Friday, its best
performance in 4 months.
President Obama decided
we wouldn't be at the 'back of the queue' after all and
that our 'special relationship' was still strong. The
French President confirmed the Le Touquet
agreement would stay in place.
The President of the European Commission stated Brexit negations would
be 'orderly' and stressed the UK would continue to be
a 'close partner' of the EU. A big bank denied reports
it would shift 2,000 staff overseas. The CBI,
vehemently anti-Brexit during the referendum
campaign, stated British business was resilient and
would adapt.
Several countries outside the EU stated
they wished to begin bi-lateral trade talks with the UK
immediately.
Property prices to drop 18% yesterday that changed to 5%...
If this was the predicted apocalypse,
well, it was a very British one. It was all over by
teatime.
Not a bad first day of freedom.
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