Illegal Police Activity

[Hymie]

This police officer was dismissed without notice following the theft of a kayak and paddles.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3758563/Hero-police-officer-sacked-stealing-kayak-paddles-trying-sell-eBay.html

The Lincolnshire chief of police is quoted as saying that there can be no place in the police service for an officer who demonstrated such unequivocally disingenuous behaviour.

In this newspaper report, MET officers made up a non-existent Police Act to illegally obtain information from Virgin Atlantic – if you ask me, the behaviour of these officers is worse than stealing a Kayak.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3757361/Scotland-Yard-officers-used-terror-laws-illegally-spy-fellow-detective-sick-leave.html

But you can bet no one will be sacked for such behaviour.

[agchristie]

Comparisons have always and will continue to be made over sentencing.

Trying go raise funds by selling a kayak and paddles? Sounds to me like he was afraid of going under...

[Hymie]

I wonder if New Judge will confirm that it is an acceptable defence in law to claim that lots of those in authority are acting illegally – and therefore you should let me off (as someone in authority acting illegally).

[Peter Pedant]

// right down to councils checking things like where parents really live in relation to preferred schools. //

is or was lawful - lots of case law saying that what comes in X act is not confined to investigating X. I think the case law says that what is in the title of the act and down the margins isnt part of the text of the act

but I am sure DB knew that ....

the other case sounds like an employment tribunal case
where costs are not awarded whatever....

I dont think we have enough detail to conclude or not whether the police officers broke the criminal law ... and as we all well know
breaking the law to get information that is relevant does not make the information excluded/ excludable in a court case - ( usually)

[Peter Pedant]

no Hymie altho I am not a telepath

I think that NJ will confirm that evidence in a criminal trial which is gathered unlawfully is almost always admitted in evidence
( fruits of the poisoned tree etc we hear so often in American progz does NOT apply here )
BUT

neither of these cases does that arise - the evidence isnt disputed in the kayak case
and in the second - it doesnt seem to be a criminal case .....(civil case either employment or tort - I cant tell which )

Neither of these case are likely to be subjects of Law Reports
so basically we will never know

if you want to make your flesh creep
try this:
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news/life-and-crimes-of-crooked-ex-west-midlands-250627

[EDDIE51]

No comparison in the 2 offences, the officer was convicted of theft, there is no alternative to dismissal. The 'investigation' was a breach of rules and a disciplinary offence but not a cause for sacking.

[EDDIE51]

divebuddy , He was still serving when he committed the offence, that is why he was dismissed without notice.