Conditional Bail Question.

[notnutnut]

Hello all,
this relates to an earlier post of mine.
I'm trying to find out what is the most commonly used bail condition by a crown court to 'ensure a defendants' attendance at court' % wise if possible please ? Lastly, is there such a thing as a downloadable template for a third party surety that I could provide to the court in it's completed and signed form as a more appropriate security to allay any concerns they may have re. attendance ? Thanks, NNN.

[Mamyalynne]

Previous question for reference.

http://www.theanswerbank.co.uk/Law/Criminal/Question1501925.html


Sorry I can't help.

[Peter Pedant]

Hi NNN

just to wish you good luck
erm wherever you are

there are a few criminal lawyers around who can tell you about conditional bail

[EDDIE51]

I don't think bail conditions are made public. But the most common condition must surely be that the defendant lives at a specific address. Another very common one is that the defendant must not contact specific people/persons and to stay out of a particular area.

[Peter Pedant]

thx Mama for the thread

hadnt realised you had 'skipped bail' NNN
judges tend to have complete sense of humour loss when this happens

doing things - well not doing things is a bad bad course of action when it comes to judges as you have found out

good luck again

[Buenchico]

You might find it extremely difficult to get the bail conditions changed. A court may ONLY impose a tagging condition under circumstances where, except for the availability of tagging, there would be no other choice than to remand the person into custody. (Section 3AB, Bail Act 1976).

So the court has ALREADY made a decision that you should be held in prison if you're not to wear a tag.

Unless you can convince the court that something has CHANGED it would seem to be unlikely (and, indeed, probably beyond the powers of the court) for the order to be varied.

[notnutnut]

Thank you everyone for your help, what I was trying to ask was this, to me a surety surely makes more sense to 'ensure attendance' rather than the curfew tag method 'cause I honestly fail to see how it would ensure attendance ? There is no suggestion of more crimes being committed (failing to comply with a council enforcement notice) and a 10 pm curfew on a farm does make life more difficult for no reason that I can see. My posting from a couple of weeks ago does give a bit more detail, thank you all for your input, NNN.

[EDDIE51]

You may be able to get the 'tag' conditions eased a bit say a later curfew, but not removed altogether.

[EDDIE51]

If it is making your leg sore they will refit it to the other leg to let the first one heal up. I know someone that had this done.

[notnutnut]

Good morning,
I'll come back with a more complete response to your postings on this matter later today. (I hope) I'm at crown court later today and I hope the judges' sense of humour hasn't been too tested 'cause I was inclined to ask that I could be allowed to have this tag off even if he would consider a surety or two as substitutes. Thanks again for your help, NNN.