Hope For The Paralysed.

[Patsy33]

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[ladybirder]

EDDIE is there any job you haven't done or any place you haven't worked? I've never known or even heard of anyone having had as many jobs as you say you have.

[EDDIE51]

Further to my last post, there is another far more prosaic reason that research using Primates (monkeys) is very much 'above board' and that is there is a huge shortage of monkeys for research. They have to be specially bred to be totally free of any hint of disease , and demand massively outstrips supply. No research institute that had the most minor question mark against its animal welfare policy would just not get supplied with animals, here is a link from a few years back,
http://www.nytimes.com/2004/04/06/science/monkeys-for-research-much-coveted-and-hard-to-come-by.html?_r=0
the situation is FAR more acute now and the price of a primate for research is now up to £50,000 each!! They just can't afford to waste such a valuable asset by using them in a less than ethical manner.

[EDDIE51]

ladybirder I worked as a laboratory technician for over 40 years in the UK Africa and the middle east. I have worked at over 15 companies and have friends who I have known since college days who have worked at many more. I am one of very few western males who have been allowed to work in training female Muslims in laboratory techniques, I have also worked inside a prison education dept. Since retirement I have worked part time for an agency in temporary jobs in everything from kitchens to a pig farm.
If you think I have had a lot of different jobs just ask Buenchico where he has worked! he makes me look like a one job wonder!

[EDDIE51]

^^ Thinking about it, it is actually 45 years 1968 to 2013. Then there were the part time and weekend jobs as well! I was often working in three jobs at once and very rarely in just 1. At one time I was chief technician at an electroplating unit, ran a sports club bar and worked in 2 pubs all at at once!
Other days I did shifts in 3 pubs in one day!

[ladybirder]

LOL EDDIE, I did wonder if Chris could give you a run for your money. Perhaps one of you could get a place in the Guiness Book of Records.

Sorry Patsy, for going off topic.

[hereIam]

Sorry EDDIE and others, but I think you are very naieve if you think nothing bad goes on behind the closed doors of vivi-section labs, very naieve indeed. I suggest you contact NAVS (National Anti Vivi-Section Society), they will put you right.

[EDDIE51]

I have actually been in the labs hereIam, do you have 1st hand experience?

[EDDIE51]

hereIam The main aim of the anti vivisection league is the abolition of the use of animals for medical research. Strangely enough that is also the aim of every lab that uses animals. Animals are just too expensive and hard to obtain. Unfortunately both the 'Anti Vivisection league ' and the medical research companys agree that there are some types of research that just can not be done any other way. The use of animals is a 'last resort' only used if there is no other way to do the research. The reason being it is just far too expensive and time consuming ! Animal research is dropping and will continue to drop for exactly that reason, the supply of animals is getting ever lower and the price is going through the roof!

[hereIam]

My 'experience' comes from what NAVS (a charity I support) tells me. I also support The Humane Research Trust which promotes alternatives to animal use in labs.

[hereIam]

And that is my last word on the matter, we will have to agree to disagree.