Is The Snp Approach To Politics Becoming Like Thatcher Was To Scotland

[gordiescotland1]

Margaret Thatchers leadership and negative attitudes towards Scotland was toxic but are the SNP not being similar with its dogmatic arrogant approach to Brexit and using indyref2 as a threat are they not alienating people in Scotland the way Thatcher did

[anneasquith]

The first minister. is doing a lot of teetering :-)

[ToraToraTora]

aye it's ool aboot wee Jimmy!

[gulliver1]

Let's face facts here. Thatcher was so hell bent on damaging her own Country, she never had time for Scotland.

[ToraToraTora]

jno: "Personally, I always thought that for a constitutional vote of this significance, the threshold should have been 60-65%" - so moving the goal posts after the event jno, PMSL!

[New Judge]

"Let's face facts here. Thatcher was so hell bent on damaging her own Country,..."

First of all, Lady Thatcher's "own" country was the United Kingdom, not England. But, if what you contend is true (which is far from a "fact") why do you think she was so intent on damaging the UK or any part of it? And just out of curiosity, were you around (and more importantly, trying to earn a living) in the 1970s?

But back to more sensible matters, I don't actually get the point of requiring a "super majority" for major constitutional changes. Why should the status quo be afforded such an advantage? Examine it the other way round (using the Scottish Independence issue as an example): "Unless at least 65% of those voting choose to remain in the UK, we'll be leaving". Fair? Certainly not. So why is it fair the other way round. Using 65% as the threshold, almost two out of three people could vote for a change and it would still not be implemented. and that's not very democratic.

[jno]

TTT, no, I suggested that before the referendum was held, it's probably on AB somewhere if you seriously want to dig back. I'd say the same of any constitutional referendum: major change needs demonstrably strong public support.

[gulliver1]

Isn't it about time you adjourned .

[New Judge]

I'll take that as a "don't know but it sounds good" then.

[-Talbot-]

But the Remain vote in Scotland was 62%; in England it was 53.4%.


Makes wonder how leave won it.

[THECORBYLOON]

There's much fewer folk outwith England so there would have been a smaller impact from the other countries' results.

[gulliver1]

Thatcher was a very Odious woman, no wonder the Scots hated her.

[fiction-factory]

The Corbyloon- I am pretty sure -TALBOT- was querying jno's statement that "...the Remain vote in Scotland was 62%; in England it was 53.4%. " The latter figure can't be right.

[fiction-factory]

The Remain figure for England was 46.6% not 53.4%

[THECORBYLOON]

DOH!