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Not Guilty
So, the twelve who heard the whole evidence, not just the gutter media's smears, found him not guilty. Now he can resume his unjustly interrupted career.
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So - a "something or nothing" scuffle outside a club has given a PCSO (Keystone Cop) her moment in the sun and (probably) cost England the Ashes. Stokes may be a loud arrogant knob ... or he may be a lovely chap - I have no way of knowing - but there was certainly some nasty "cutting him down to size" going on from the Lilliputians in uniform and the CPS desk wallahs...
12:34 Tue 14th Aug 2018
// As I have pointed out previously, being found Not Guilty is not the same as being innocent.//
well it is in Law - but unfortunately the records in the PNC can show all sorts of variations ( esp in sex crime)
You leave court without a stain on your names
I did hear a judge say this and it is I agree difficult to suppress a snigger
( Leaving aside Gray v Barr 1967 - I really dont think this thread deserves that)
well it is in Law - but unfortunately the records in the PNC can show all sorts of variations ( esp in sex crime)
You leave court without a stain on your names
I did hear a judge say this and it is I agree difficult to suppress a snigger
( Leaving aside Gray v Barr 1967 - I really dont think this thread deserves that)
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The "person of reasonable firmness" is a hypothetical person, spathi. The phrase is used in many statutes. It is used to establish whether the behaviour of those involved could have caused a person of reasonable firmness to (for example) fear for their safety. There does not have to be such a person present or even likely to be present and there does not actually have to be such fear caused. It is a matter for the jury (or bench of Magistrates) to decide if this element of the offence was proved. In my view (again, with very limited knowledge of the facts) that this is where the charge of Affray failed.
It is often somewhat pointless picking over these cases where the verdict seems at odds with (what we believe) are the facts. Mr Stokes's trial took over a week, I believe. You can read all the pertinent information published about it in probably half an hour. The jury heard all the evidence from both sides and were directed by the judge as to what they need to find to convict the defendant.
It is often somewhat pointless picking over these cases where the verdict seems at odds with (what we believe) are the facts. Mr Stokes's trial took over a week, I believe. You can read all the pertinent information published about it in probably half an hour. The jury heard all the evidence from both sides and were directed by the judge as to what they need to find to convict the defendant.
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