Who Is The Most Hated Person In The Uk?

[saintpeter48]

Blair, Johnson, Swinson, Thornbury, Corbyn, Cameron, May, Abbott, Soubry, Major!! You can all vote ..... now!

[ToraToraTora]

10CS: "I just love this web site! Very funny! " - oh dear standard defence of the charlatan!

[10ClarionSt]

I just love this web site! :o)

[1ozzy]

Me too

[ToraToraTora]

so 10cs can you confirm that you think we should have let Argentina keep the Falklands then?

[10ClarionSt]

In hindsight, yes. But the trouble with hindsight is that it's never there when you need it, is it? Anyone who was old enough at the time, knew that until Argentina invaded the Falklands, the Tories were massively behind in the opinion polls and looked like being kicked out of office. The "Falklands Factor" got the Tories re-elected. I still don't know why. And I still don't know how anyone could condone the Tory govt at the time, that deliberately and callously targeted a large section of it's own population with political action that it knew would cause unemployment, hardship and deprivation. It wasn't just an attack on Socialism. It was an attack on everything that working people stood for. An attack on working people to deprive them of their dignity and make them subserviant by selling off their means of earning and privatising the housing stock and utilities. Business people who were friends of the PM, cherry-picked sections of industry that they could buy on the cheap, then sell off at a massive profit. All that followed the victory over Argentina and the salvation of a few sheep farmers on British Sovereign Territory 8,000 miles away. This govt at the time should have offered the Falklands to Argentina for a price, then compensated the islanders with that money. What has happened with the islands since? What would happen if the islands were invaded say, next April? All of our 15 or so gunboats and destroyers wouldn't be able to move the sheep off the Falklands, never mind an army of conscripts. My friend lost his son on HMS Sheffield. He hates Thatcher with an out and out passion. However, he hated her BEFORE the Falklands conflict, so that event put the tin lid on it for him.

I think some of the responses to my earlier posts were really childish; playground, name-calling stuff. Some people reveal their true selves, or part of their true selves, with the way they respond.
Apart from all that, I'm fine!

[vetuste_ennemi]

...the salvation of a few sheep farmers on British Sovereign Territory 8,000 miles away.


Yes, I can see how some people saw it at the time - and see it now.

I concede that it is, at least, a rational policy with cost/benefit analysis and all that stuff.

[retrocop]

What the hell do you think members of HMQ armed forces sign up for? They swear allegiance to protect their Queen and her sovereign territories. Of course it was tragic that 255 lost their lives. That is what service personnel understand the risks they take. That is what makes them heroes and We listen to you spewing out your bilge about mates dying on the Sheffield in the service of their country. That is what they signed up to do. They should be recognised for the heroes they are yet their loss still be mourned and honoured. Your pathetic socialist ramblings dishonour the brave men you go up for annual jolly and moment of fame every November.
The Royal Navy is not a freebie leisure cruise at the tax payers expense and better men than you serve in it with that knowledge.

[Mozz71]

Well, I don't recall anyone else who had a hit single celebrating their death.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-22145306

[vetuste_ennemi]

Funnily I've had exactly that conversation twenty years ago or more. With the "singing DBA" where I worked.

The two of )us had a lot in common: same age, both loved a drink, both enjoyed playing (relatively) high-stakes poker and backgammon. And arguing the toss about politics, of course.

This was the bit where we were opposites. He was the quintessential cloth cap labour whinger whereas I was the typical Tory scumbag (although I invariably argued with him on that slander, pointing out that while I embraced the description "scumbag" with pride, I'd never voted Tory in my life, not even for St Margaret of hallowed memory).


His argument was identical to that of No 10's: we give the Argioes the "Malvinas" which are further from Buenos Aires than at least ten European capital cities are from London. "It's cheaper than a war, boyo" Ralph said; "Give them a million quid each and bring them 'back' here". "Maybe the sheep farmers who are largely descended from your country would prefer to stay on their own homes and not get kicked about by a foreigner, Mr Thomas" I replied.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Sorry, I should have made clear that I was replying to 10ClarionSt's post of 00:13 as a follow-up to my earlier reply.

[AZardoz]

saintpeter ain't such a saint evidently. (no caps, no halo)
Get the pitchforks ! Monty Python satirized it way back then.

[10ClarionSt]

I just love this web site! I can hear the steam coming out of Retro's ears! Ha! Ha! Ha! Ha! :o) He definitely qualifies to be "Outraged of Frinton". You lay down the law, Retro! Everything you say must be true, mustn't it? After all, you were a policeman. They don't get anything wrong do they? :o)