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Is Labour Now Virtually Communist?
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Looks like they intend to plunder private schools and steal their assets.
Looks like they intend to plunder private schools and steal their assets.
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//But they will have to pay the proper commercial rate and not a heavily subsidised rate which swindles the taxpayer.//
How does it swindle the taxpayer? At the expense of the taxpayer free education is available to all but those paying for private education are also taxpayers so they’re actually paying quite a lot more to educate their children.
How does it swindle the taxpayer? At the expense of the taxpayer free education is available to all but those paying for private education are also taxpayers so they’re actually paying quite a lot more to educate their children.
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Labour think that the withdrawal of subsidies with make the schools less commercially viable and they will shut. But that is probably wishful thinking.
// The opposition party has resolved to include a commitment in its next election manifesto to “integrate all private schools into the state sector”. This would be achieved by withdrawing charitable status, tax exemptions — including business rates — and all other public subsidies //
When these companies fail, Labour will then redistribute their assets.
// The party has also pledged to take control of “endowments, investments and properties held by private schools” and ensure they are redistributed “democratically and fairly across the country’s educational institutions”. //
The flaw with that plan is that if fees have to go up, most rich parents will pay the higher fees, and the schools will not be forced out of business, and the (future Labour) Government will not get their assets.
// The opposition party has resolved to include a commitment in its next election manifesto to “integrate all private schools into the state sector”. This would be achieved by withdrawing charitable status, tax exemptions — including business rates — and all other public subsidies //
When these companies fail, Labour will then redistribute their assets.
// The party has also pledged to take control of “endowments, investments and properties held by private schools” and ensure they are redistributed “democratically and fairly across the country’s educational institutions”. //
The flaw with that plan is that if fees have to go up, most rich parents will pay the higher fees, and the schools will not be forced out of business, and the (future Labour) Government will not get their assets.
Gromit;//If people are fortunate to be rich, and want to pay for education, then good for them. Just don’t expect the state to chip in for a discount.//
Do you think that state education is "free"? A child sent to a private school is not costing the state to educate him/her.
It is like private health care; the person on BUPA is less of a burden on the NHS & is therefore saving the state money.
Do you think that state education is "free"? A child sent to a private school is not costing the state to educate him/her.
It is like private health care; the person on BUPA is less of a burden on the NHS & is therefore saving the state money.
//The flaw with that plan is that if fees have to go up, most rich parents will pay the higher fees, and the schools will not be forced out of business, and the (future Labour) Government will not get their assets. //
Good. The operative words being 'their [the private schools'] assets'. The 'assets' are not the government's to take.
Good. The operative words being 'their [the private schools'] assets'. The 'assets' are not the government's to take.
I don't know how well it is policed, but its my understanding that independent schools who claim charitable status have to actually do something to retain it in the way of scholarships, facilities for the local community and so on.....yes I was right, scroll down https:/
Private education provides huge savings for the state, why haven't they worked that out?
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// Mr McDonnell said every part of the policy would be carried out on a "consultation basis", and that he could not see the use of "draconian measures" to enforce it. //
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// Mr McDonnell said every part of the policy would be carried out on a "consultation basis", and that he could not see the use of "draconian measures" to enforce it. //
Obviously Abbotpotamus did the Maths Khandro.
Gromit, you seem to be under the misappprehenction that people going to private school are rich. You are sadly wrong many at private schools forgo holidays and dont smoke or drink to send their ids there. I know this from first hand experience so dont try to twist it as you usually do.
I think you maybe dont understand the difference between private and public though?
Gromit, you seem to be under the misappprehenction that people going to private school are rich. You are sadly wrong many at private schools forgo holidays and dont smoke or drink to send their ids there. I know this from first hand experience so dont try to twist it as you usually do.
I think you maybe dont understand the difference between private and public though?
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I have not mentioned public schools.
The difference is between State schools funded by the Government, and fee paying schools which are commercially funded by their customers.
Private Schools should not get a tax break from the taxpayer anymore than Thomas Cook get a Government bail out. They are commercial companies and they are subject to market forces. If they do not survive, it is not because they aren’t being handed wads of tax payers money.
I have not mentioned public schools.
The difference is between State schools funded by the Government, and fee paying schools which are commercially funded by their customers.
Private Schools should not get a tax break from the taxpayer anymore than Thomas Cook get a Government bail out. They are commercial companies and they are subject to market forces. If they do not survive, it is not because they aren’t being handed wads of tax payers money.
Well now teachers (and presumably schoolchildren, lecturers and students) in the new nationalised education system will only have to do a four day week:
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Which means that you'll leave school at 21 instead of 18 and graduate at 25 instead of 21.
With a growing aged population, just where is the money to support people in their old age (pensions, care, NHS) going to come from if the bulk of the working population is working only 40 years at 4 days a week?
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Which means that you'll leave school at 21 instead of 18 and graduate at 25 instead of 21.
With a growing aged population, just where is the money to support people in their old age (pensions, care, NHS) going to come from if the bulk of the working population is working only 40 years at 4 days a week?
Khandro
// What do you say to my post above at 12:37? //
To be honest, I could not make any sense of it. You stated that Private education provides huge savings for the state - but you offered no facts or link to prove that. And then the link you did post amounted to a totting up of costs such as school uniform over a child’s time in a state school. I could see what the point of that link was ?
// What do you say to my post above at 12:37? //
To be honest, I could not make any sense of it. You stated that Private education provides huge savings for the state - but you offered no facts or link to prove that. And then the link you did post amounted to a totting up of costs such as school uniform over a child’s time in a state school. I could see what the point of that link was ?
Gromit, Sorry you are quite right, I posted the wrong link, it should have been this one; https:/
Which points out, 'Total spending on schools in England represented just under £42 billion in 2017–18 (in 2018–19 prices). This represents £4,700 per pupil at primary school and £6,200 per pupil at secondary school.'
That is the cost to the state (taxpayers). There are around 2,500 independent schools in the UK, which educate around 615,000 children, some 7 per cent of all British children. What I'm saying is that by paying for the education of these children from their own pockets, these parents are saving the state a large amount of money, while subsidising - by virtue of the fact that they pay taxes like everybody else - state education.
Which points out, 'Total spending on schools in England represented just under £42 billion in 2017–18 (in 2018–19 prices). This represents £4,700 per pupil at primary school and £6,200 per pupil at secondary school.'
That is the cost to the state (taxpayers). There are around 2,500 independent schools in the UK, which educate around 615,000 children, some 7 per cent of all British children. What I'm saying is that by paying for the education of these children from their own pockets, these parents are saving the state a large amount of money, while subsidising - by virtue of the fact that they pay taxes like everybody else - state education.
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