How Is Juncket Going To Force An Unwilling R O I To Build And Enforce A Border Post No Deal Brexit?

[ToraToraTora]

https://news.sky.com/story/hard-border-on-island-of-ireland-will-return-under-no-deal-brexit-says-eus-juncker-11815168
"A hard border will return on the island of Ireland if Britain leaves the EU without a deal, Jean-Claude Juncker has told Sky News. The European Commission president said he would not be the architect of no-deal but the bloc would have to act to protect its citizens' health and safety."

[Togo]

// Iceland is not even a member of the EU but it is in the EEA and Schengen, it is far from the Mediterranean. This work is paid for by the EU and Iceland is not forced to do it.//

Consider that. Why would they do it? Bribery? A deal that "allows" them to process all the fish that the EUSSR steals from us in the future....far away from prying eyes that might want to count the quota? It sure as hell isn't costing the Icelandic a penny, but it is costing someone.....us. The EUSSR has a long term plan ......it covets a Navy and an Army. The army will be made up of the new and exciting males that have been encouraged to gatecrash the party, a sort of new model Mamaluk army that will not shrink from firing on the indigenous peoples of Europe, the navy will have to, for now, start with a makeshift volunteer force under the control of France( a sort of Dunkirk in reverse) before Germany is "persuaded" to start building a brand new battle fleet in the style of the Bismark and Scharnhorst which will be required to protect their North Sea fishing grounds from pirates.

[ToraToraTora]

they don't seem to mind having an open border with Russia.

[New Judge]

//This work is paid for by the EU..//

No it isn’t. The EU has no money of its own. Such things are paid for by the taxpayers of the contributing EU member nations (which number about five of the twenty-eight, of which the UK is the second highest contributor).

//…or else what was all the stuff about taking charge of the border about? Any suggestion that the UK would be unworried/disinterested in such an outcome and leave it wide open (on/around the island of Ireland) is pure bunkum.//

We’ve done this (see above).

[KARL]

Togo, if I was meant to, I don't follow anything you say in your post. As other countries do, so Iceland as an EEA/Schengen member does its share of EU border patrols - it's called participation/cooperation, not a familiar concept among some. Iceland has less of a need for bribes than the UK, it is better off and better organised - it also gets on with other nations, except for occasionally having to show up an embarrassingly obnoxious UK in bullying mode.

Just to take one point where I am trying to comprehend and failing: Iceland processing fish for the EU ? I know the UK has recently suggested fish in Icelandic waters are really the UK's because years ago they used to be caught in UK waters, which is rather laughable (but very British). There have been talks on quota decisions regarding species overlap areas (migrating species caught by different nations). I am unsure at whose behest but Iceland has been excluded from talks about quotas covering these so they have, reluctantly, decided their own. Iceland has been conspicuously more successful than the UK in arriving at sustainable harvesting of marine life.

[KARL]

The UK has no money of its own - it is the taxpayers'. Pointless point to make.

[vetuste_ennemi]

Who exactly is going to impede the equally benificial trade between north and south Ireland by constructing a customs border?

While Taoseach obviously enjoys cocking a snoop to the UK when he's got big brother Tusk as back up, when push comes to shove its his country will will suffer the greater economic pain.

[vetuste_ennemi]

...it's

[New Judge]

//…so Iceland as an EEA/Schengen member does its share of EU border patrols//

How much EU border patrolling does Iceland do? It is more than 800 miles from the UK (the nearest EU nation)?

//The UK has no money of its own - it is the taxpayers'. Pointless point to make.//

Who made a point to the contrary?

[Togo]

// Iceland has been conspicuously more successful than the UK in arriving at sustainable harvesting of marine life.//

Does Iceland allow the EUSSR to fish it's waters.

[davebro]

"...it's"

V-E since you see fit to correct yourself I might point out that the phrase should be "cocking a SNOOK" :)

[KARL]

N.J. "....how much... patrolling...?". As I said, Iceland does its share, as other nations also do.

"...point to the contrary....", I am quite certain that, at least by now, you have grasped what I was getting at. Ref. yours at 22.17, neither the EU (insitutions) or the UK (institutions/government) have their own money - both spend lots of it on running their respective systems. This is self evident and making a point of mentioning it is.....

[vulcan42]

" N.J. "....how much... patrolling...?". As I said, Iceland does its share, as other nations also do."
Karl, I cannot find a link to Icelandic/EU patrols, do you have one?

[Togo]

If the EUSSR insist on imposing a hard border between North and South will the IRA start a bombing campaign in Brussels?

[vulcan42]

" Karl, I cannot find a link to Icelandic/EU patrols, do you have one?"
11:05 Mon 23rd Sep
Obviously not. Another "fact" plucked out of the air purporting to be true.