Gina Miller Will Hold Boris Johnson Responsible If Anyone Is Killed Or Hurt.

[anotheoldgit]

https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/matt-frei/gina-miller-killed-hurt-boris-johnson-responsible/

Could Boris take this woman to court for false accusations?

[ToraToraTora]

oh I see, you fail to recognise the sobriquet? Many acts have alternative names, the surrender Act is the name many give to the Benn Act. Surpised you are not abreast oif current affairs TCL.

[THECORBYLOON]

The name or names of the sponsors of a Bill or an Act are often used when referring to it.

Where is the clause in the European Union Withdrawal (No.2) Act metioning surrender?

[Spicerack]

It was the fragrant Jess Phillips, ff, who claimed she'd stab someone.
Aye, the same one who was crying t'other night because Boris called the surrender document a........surrender document.

[ToraToraTora]

It's an act of collaboration with a foriegn power it doesn't need the actual word to have the effect.

[THECORBYLOON]

SPICERACK, was she using that as an idiom or as a threat of violence? If it was the latter, were the police involved?

[Old_Geezer]

Mustn't confuse the act's official name with it's more accurate description.

[Khandro]

The hidden agenda lies in the background of this awful woman, her husband is a close friend (!!!???) of George Soros & he has given her £450,000 to do his bidding.
She's nothing but a tart.

[Jackdaw33]

What puzzles me is why MI5 have not yet arranged for a convenient 'accident' to befall this appalling. wretched woman.

[Zacs-Master]

What puzzles me is why AOG has posted 2 questions and then, rather rudely, not made comment. It's a bit ignorant to post and then either ignite people who've bothered to comment, or if you knew you wouldn't have the time to respond!

[Zacs-Master]

Ha ha. Ignore. Freudian slip.

[andy-hughes]

I think what we are seeing here is the use of florid language on social media, which is unchecked, making its way into other media, which is not a good step in my view.

Of course Ms, Miller can 'hold responsible' the Prime Minister if she wishes - that has about as much meaning as people 'threatening' to leave the UK if Brexit / an election / S Club 7 reformding etc. etc., delete as appropriate - it is utterly meaningless and should be ignored as such.

[New Judge]

//Where is the clause in the European Union Withdrawal (No.2) Act metioning surrender?//

OK. I'll have a go (although I accept that the word “surrender” is not used):

The bill determines that the Commons must either (1) agree to any agreement the UK concludes with the EU or (2) agree to leave without an such an agreement. All well and good. However, it’s what it dictates next in the almost certain event that neither of those happens that, in my view, constitutes a “surrender”. The Bill determines that the PM must write to the EU (and it determines the wording of the letter) seeking an extension to A50 to 31st January 2020. If the EU agrees to the 31st January proposal the PM must “immediately after such a decision is made, notify the President of the European Council that the United Kingdom agrees to the proposed extension.” But, here’s the really big rub: if the EU decides to agree an extension but to a date other than 31st January 2020 “the Prime Minister must, within a period of two days beginning with the end of the day on which the European Council’s decision is made, or before the end of 30 October 2019, whichever is sooner, notify the President of the European Council that the United Kingdom agrees to the proposed extension.” Only if the Commons fails to pass a motion accepting that date can it be declined.

So, this Bill not only cedes the conditions under which the UK can leave to the EU (as they principally drive the “negotiations”) but it also forfeits the right for the EU to determine the date on which we leave. In theory, the EU could say “OK. Extension agreed – to 31st December 2050). It would then be incumbent on the Commons to fail to agree to that date – and with its current make-up it is highly likely they would bend over backwards to secure such an agreement.

The Bill not only circumvents an already existing Act of Parliament (which says we should leave on 31st October) but it takes the manner of our leaving and the date of our departure out of the hands of the Prime Minister. It is an absolute disgrace and “Surrender Bill” is a perfectly appropriate title.

[CrapAtCryptics]

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2019/26/enacted/data.htm

The surrender bill

[Mozz71]

//What puzzles me is why MI5 have not yet arranged for a convenient 'accident' to befall this appalling. wretched woman.//

Is that what you hope will happen?

[New Judge]

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//What puzzles me is why MI5 have not yet arranged for a convenient 'accident' to befall this appalling. wretched woman.//

Is that what you hope will happen?
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This is why there are the current nonsensical accusations of imflammatory language and incitement to violence. Jackdaw gave no indication whatsoever that this is what he would hope to happen. It was a simple statement of puzzlement.

[THECORBYLOON]

NJ, is it reasonable to expect MI5 to assassinate Gina Miller?

[jourdain2]

Of course not, just a bit of hyperbole. What has happened to normal understanding?

[Jackdaw33]

She would not be assassinated; that status is reserved for important public figures. She would conveniently be removed from the scene. If she were Israeli Mossad would make short work of her.

[Ellipsis]

A: "Kill Caesar!"
B: "Isn't it outrageous that Caesar hasn't been killed yet?"

Two statements that have the same intent, but in B the speaker hopes to avoid prosecution should Caesar be killed. "I only asked a question, guv, I didn't give any instruction ..."

[pixie374]

She hasn't made any accusations yet, false or otherwise. Just a totally irrational statement.