Food Deliveries - Tipping

[bainbrig]

Not keen on tipping, although I always do it on the basis that service workers often rely on tips, but food delivery (mainly men)... If it’s say £27 I give them £30, and while I don’t WANT any change, it’s always nice when they go through the motions of reaching in their pockets for the three quid.

Recently many don’t even go through the motions, and one particularly cheeky bleeder held out his hand for more!

Is it me, or the times we live in?

[bainbrig]

Dahlia Lama says he/she tips young people, apparently to the exclusion of older ones.

Dubious, that - I’ve met several much older delivery drivers etc who seem much in need of a hand!

Give! There’s no point in being a scrooge - give generously and share your luck.

[Islay]

I tip food delivery but not hermes or Tesco

[bainbrig]

Shame that, as Hermes drivers are some of the poorest rewarded.

[Islay]

My money up to me who I tip!

[gingejbee]

Never have the problem.....we've never had food delivered to the house....supermarket or ready-to-eat stuff. It would never occur to us to do it!

[bainbrig]

(a) here come those exclamation marks, like wagging fingers;

(b) nor us, but age and infirmity can change your habits.

BB

[Deskdiary]

I don't tip - never have done.

I genuinely struggle with the idea as to why somebody would tip a barber. The price the barber charges has been set at a level to cover costs plus some profit, so why would I pay more than the advertised cost? In a restaurant it is implicit that the food I have paid for needs to be brought to me, and this applies to delivery drivers as well, so why would I pay them more than is required?

In a taxi why would I pay more than the amount shown on the meter?

I genuinely don't get it.

It's hardly my problem that, as mentioned in this thread, that they are poorly paid..

[bainbrig]

Trouble is, deskdiary, that the world doesn't think like you, and society isn't legislated to help.

Thus, many 'service' workers get either the bare minimum wage, or sometimes not even that, and rely on the generosity of the people they serve to make a decent living wage.

All wrong, without a doubt, but what's the alternative? Not tipping people means you might feel better, but they are forced down into even more poverty.

If there was legislation plus a proper minimum wage (maybe £15 in London, £12 elsewhere), then you could outlaw tipping and the rogue restaurants where all the tips end up in the bosses pockets!

But until then, I'm afraid that you really can't be 'above' it.

BB

[Islay]

£15 min wage? Are you on cloud cuckoo land?
I have been a civil servant for 21 years and don't get £15 an hour....

[bainbrig]

And as far as it not being your problem, remember the words of Martin Niemoeller:

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

[ummmm]

If they upped the minimum wage then the cost of goods and services will go up.

[bainbrig]

a) Well, question marks make a change from exclamation marks, anyway. (And do you include pensions, sick pay, holiday pay in that calculation?)

b) Yes, prices would rise, as they should - we can’t go on having (for example) our clothes subsidised by the likes of Bangla Desh, or eating food so cheap it isn’t worth growing.

[Islay]

bainbrig do you make remarks about other peoples use of the correct punctuation or just mine?
I am paid less than that £15 an hour now if you think that by adding sick pay and holidays that will take me over that then you believe that, but others get sick pay and holidays as do some of these that you advocate us tipping.
Are you including that in your calculations?

[bainbrig]

No, Islay, but it has seemed that my comments sometimes annoy you and prompt an outbreak of exclamation marks. (Was it Victor Borge who first christened them ‘wagging fingers’?)

On the wages business, £15 an hour translates into an annual gross income of about £25000, hardly a huge wage, at least not in London.

And since many minimum wage earners are also on perk-free ‘zero’ hours contracts, they’d probably end up with far less.

BB

[Old_Geezer]

The more you encourage tipping in society, then more you encourage underpaying since the employer claims the employee will make the money up, and more, in tips. Which allows the employer to show lower charges than you actually end up paying. It's a viscous circle we end up being persuaded to participate in, that could do with banning.

[Cloverjo]

I'm glad I don't live in America. If you buy a drink costing $8 and hand over a ten dollar note, you'll be waiting a long time for your change.

[Jackdaw33]

Whenever anyone hands over a note in the Rover's Return they either say, "Have one yourself" or " Keep the change". Generous lot, these Manchester folk.

[maggiebee]

Tipping a delivery driver? I think not. Would never tip my postie (apart from maybe at Christmas) so why any other?

[albaqwerty]

oh dear, take-away driver, whether phoned or just-eat, hand over a quid, same with supermarket delivery.
Poor old taxi driver only gets 50p, postie gets a fiver at xmas.
Bin guys the same.