We Don't Really Know

[teacake44]

The true death figure from this virus, because every statement we hear is, ( people who have died ( in) hospital over the last 24hours, and the absents of the death rate in the community, at home or care home, only given the occasional mention. Are we again being lied to because people are not getting to hospital for various reasons to get the care they need like Boris as got when he needed it.

[teacake44]

Zac I don't need a link the NHS staff are telling me what's happening every single day.

[Zacs-Master]

I’m pretty sure The NHS staff are telling you they’ve got a shortage. The cause of that shortage could be manufacture or distribution. Are they all completely sure it’s the former?

[TonyV]

Spoke to a neighbour this morning who is a nurse on a maternity ward. Only PPE she has been offered is a face mask. Her friend who works in A & E were still being inundated with drunks at the weekend. How selfish people can be?

[Zacs-Master]

Actually, just to qualify.....it could of course be a combination of both (manufacturing and distribution).

[teacake44]

12.49 the drunks should be put in a cell to suffer their self inflicted problem, not taken to A&E, I wouldn't have a problem with agreeing to that at all. Live or die in your cell!!

[naomi24]

Teacake, I didn't say I don't believe there's a shortage of equipment. I said I don't believe all this criticism and negativity helps anyone. Why don't you take a breath and read what's actually being said before jumping up and down?

[TonyV]

Zacs thought Army was being mobilised to distribute PPE.

[teacake44]

12.55 I got to the point of not reading your posts or zacs, if anything your negative to everyone's point of view, It seems to be just a daily sport to both of you ( together) further posts will be ignored.

[naomi24]

Teacake, You don't understand them anyway so that's not a bad idea at all. Well done.

[Zacs-Master]

That’s a petty juvenile response which belies the fact your unable to answer or even provide any evidence for your assertions.

[Togo]

This man...a scientist in his own right has some points that are worth considering.

https://hectordrummond.com/2020/04/03/covid-19-scepticism-bullet-points/

[TonyV]

This imposed isolation seems to getting under a few peoples skins?

[fiction-factory]

This Hector Drummond?
https://www.breitbart.com/tag/hector-drummond/
Does anyone know what he was a 'professor' of ? (Another site says he was a lecturer)

[TonyV]

His report is a load of ifs and buts IMO a load of tosh.

[woofgang]

Here's all I can find. "Hector Drummond is a former professor (at a Russell Group University) turned novelist. His comic writing career started off with undergraduate revues, and continued on with the articles he wrote for various ludicrous academic journals." I think the Russell Group Uni thing is bigging himself up. There is no evidence that he ever was anything to do with the RG personally, just that he lectured at one of the Uni's. No mention of what he lectured in, any post grad qualifications or illustrious appointments.

[woofgang]

Togo, do we know he is a scientist?

[douglas9401]

He works out of the same office as Prof. Brubaker at The Institute Of Studies.

[douglas9401]

Beg pardon, The Institute FOR Studies.

[woofgang]

lol Douglas, yes probably

[TonyV]

Zacs not sure if your comment was aimed at me, but anyway here's what happening.

https://www.forces.net/news/army-deliver-protective-equipment-frontline-nhs-workers