Can A Magnet Siphon A Ferrofluid Up An Inclined Pipe/Tube?

[crankfwd]

If you had a small lake of ferrofluid, could that fluid be siphoned up lots of pipes, using magnets, so that it fills a reservoir which then uses the same ferrofluid to power a hydroelectric generator and fill the original lake up?

[woofgang]

it may have a low coefficient of friction but its not frictionless.

[crankfwd]

wolfgang- I'm not even sure if the low friction is a good or a bad thing. I understand that the system will lose energy through friction and heat, but I'm hoping that the magnetic force will negate these losses by the time it pulls the liquid up the tube. The main thing I'm worried about is the hydrostatics and the siphoning part. I just worry that the ferrofluid not near the magnet will fall back down the pipe. This is why I need the opinion of an engineer or a physicist.

[ToraToraTora]

study the first law of thermodynamics before spending any more effort on this.

[ToraToraTora]

put simply it will never pull all the liquid up thus over time, like all PPMs the energy cycle reduces to Zero as the amount of liquid pulled up reduces to zero.

[crankfwd]

TTT- what does PPM refer to? Also I'm not trying to create or destroy any energy. I'm trying to pull up the liquid with magnetic force, so I guess the energy used comes from the magnet? I've already stated that this will wear down eventually but I don't see where specifically I'm breaking the laws of thermodynamics. Any eventual electricity will be powered by gravity just like normal hydroelectricity.

[ToraToraTora]

PPM = Perpetual Motion Machine, " I'm not trying to create or destroy any energy." - you are trying to create a PPM that means you are trying to get free energy, the FLOT prevents that.

[crankfwd]

TTT-but I don't think this is perpetual. I am using the energy in the magnet and that is going to wear down. So energy will be lost and when the magnet is drained, I can't pull up any ferrofluid. This is not free energy by any stretch. I don't think that I could pull up enough fluid with one magnet and then use that to create more power. But could I have a thousand pipes, using a thousand magnets, filling a reservoir, then maybe I could produce one days electricity for five days of filling?

[ToraToraTora]

ok fair enough there may well be some energy savings in your proposal, the next stage is to set up a small prototype and test.

[crankfwd]

TTT-there's a chemist on youtube who has made some very pure ferrofluid, have asked him in his comments section, so I will have to wait